Re[2]: PDA recommendation for running Mini-stumbler (maybe OT?)

["Matthew Leeds" <mleeds () theleeds net>]

The current version of the Nokia IT, the N810 has the following relevant specs:

Memory
    * DDR RAM 128MB
    * Flash 256MB
Storage
    * Up to 2GB internal memory
    * Support for compatible miniSD and microSD memory cards (with extender). Supports cards up to 8GB. (SD cards over 
2GB must be SDHC compatible.)

Jay, I'll gladly take either/both of the Nokia's sitting on your junk shelf. Mine has been stable, great fun, and an 
interesting learning experience. Clearly this is not a consumer device. Mine came with an unstable OS, but the upgrade 
to the most recent OS made all the difference, at least for me. While I would only recommend it to either a gadget 
enthusiast or a Linux partisan, there is much value in this device. It's not a PDA and won't (despite the available 
Garnet VM) replace my Palm device, but given its feature set I've found many uses for it.

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---Matthew
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On 2/10/2008 at 10:56 PM David M. Zendzian wrote:

> The problem with the nokia is that they only put 64M of RAM into it. Who
> in this day & age thought of that with ram prices so cheap.
>
> But with that in mind, and using the hacked OS2007 image i'm fairly
> stable :) at least enough to run some "decent" apps (600 page ebook,
> kismit, a few xterms, ssh, etc; never all at the same time...).  Just
> don't load a lot of applets and extra apps, it is a small tablet.
>
> http://maemo.org/community/wiki/Os2007On770
>
> That's the link to the OS2007 for the 770. I still have some issues with
> stability but i know it's 100% due to running out of ram & hitting swap.
> It does run way too many daemons, but it is linux and you can tweek it
> some :)
>
> David
>
> If you need more power, there is always the OQO of the sony. But they
> are slightly bigger than the average PDA.
>
> James, Jay wrote:
> > I bought a Nokia device especially for this purpose.
> > It wasn't stable and crashed frequently -- I figured it was because my
> son dropped it from 3 feet or so.
> > Fine, I give Nokia the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps a loose surface
> mount component... ok. Whatever, I get it.
> > Crash Crash Crash.
> >
> > So I then bought another one.
> > It wasn't stable enough either and crashed almost as frequently (I was
> obsessed about keeping Juniors hands off of it this time around).
> > Having 2 unstable Nokia devices are enough for me to perhaps inspire the
> pentester to think again about using even one.
> > If someone has better luck with this, then good for you! I am jealous,
> as I have spent untold hours on mine trying to get things to a point of
> stability.
> > As it is now, these are relegated to sitting on a shelf in the home lab.
> > The shelf is labeled "The Junk Shelf".
> >
> > Spend and learn.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jay James
> > INFOSEC
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com]
> On Behalf Of Slim Pickens
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 1:23 PM
> > To: Paul Greene
> > Cc: Pentest Mailinglist
> > Subject: Re: PDA recommendation for running Mini-stumbler (maybe OT?)
> >
> > Try a Nokia N810 and run kismet, aircrack, dsniff, and metasploit
> > instead.
> >
> > On Feb 4, 2008, at 8:02 PM, Paul Greene <techlists () comcast net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > I hope this isn't too off topic for the list.
> > >
> > > I want to buy a PDA that can also be used as a phone, has builtin
> > > 802.11 b/g wifi, and, importantly, has no problems running mini-
> > > stumbler. If the device also had a built in 1 or 2 megapixel camera,
> > > even better.
> > >
> > > The HP iPAQ 510 looks like it has the specs, but I can't find anyone
> > > anywhere using this particular model with mini-stumbler. Almost all
> > > of the Google searches I ran on mini-stumbler and iPAQs came up with
> > > older posts, i.e. 2-5 years ago. (the operating system on the iPAQ
> > > 510 is Windows Mobile 6.0)
> > >
> > > I'm not set on an iPAQ, but am more interested in getting a current
> > > PDA model that someone is already running (with the above specs) and
> > > is enthusiastically happy with what they've got.
> > >
> > > TIA,
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
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