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RE: Where is the Wireless line?
From: <adam.slader () bt com>
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:57:37 +0100
Barry, Is there any difference of breaking in if the door is unlocked to if the door was bolted? Who knows... My opinion is people usually happy to be told that they have left their door open by someone other than a burgler. Why not just tell them rather than the movie scenario (although watching a printer doesn't make good tv). -----Original Message----- From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of Matt Steer Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 1:33 PM To: Barry Fawthrop Cc: pen-test () securityfocus com Subject: RE: Where is the Wireless line? Barry, I am not a Lawyer or knowledgeable to the full extent of the law. In the UK it is illegal to connect to an access point to do not have permission to use. I suppose it depends where you are, though I would not recommend taking the actions you specified. A printer is a company resource just like files and data. (Think how *nix represents hardware as a file) Perhaps knock the door and outright tell an IT representative? In my opinion, at the end of the day if you have no affiliation with the company, it's not your problem and taking advantage of the current situation could cause trouble for you even if you have good intentions. Hope this helps and is accurate! Other opinions please! Regards, Matt Steer -----Original Message----- From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of Barry Fawthrop Sent: 05 September 2007 02:57 To: pen-test () securityfocus com Subject: Where is the Wireless line? Hi All Where does the wireless line being and end with regards to "illegal access" Concept: If company A has a wireless network (unprotected) No Encryption, Broadcasting SSID, Default Acesss point user_name and password. You know they need security. So is it wrong to access the network and print to their printer a document saying "You need security, I just accessed your network" Or would one have to have permission first!. I'm not talking about accessing data and files, but using the printer and printing on their paper that they need help!!!. And then going in and asking for a security contract having proved beyond doubt that they need it. Otherwise before hand it is just your word & experience against theirs and obviously they are not going to admit they need help without being shown? Curious to hear your comments, or possible solutions to the same/similar problems?? Thanks Barry ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This list is sponsored by: Cenzic Need to secure your web apps NOW? Cenzic finds more, "real" vulnerabilities fast. Click to try it, buy it or download a solution FREE today! http://www.cenzic.com/downloads ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ____________________________________________________ This message has been checked for Viruses and has been found to be clean. Marston's PLC Group Services IT Department ____________________________________________________ ************************************************************************ ********** Visit our Web site at www.marstons.co.uk !! This email is confidential and may be legally privileged as are any files transmitted with it. It is intended solely for the use by the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Marston's PLC. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify The Marston's IT Service Desk on 01902 329500. "Marston's PLC is a public limited company registered in England and Wales. Registered number: 31461 Registered office: Marston's House, Wolverhampton, WV1 4JT." ************************************************************************ ********** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This list is sponsored by: Cenzic Need to secure your web apps NOW? Cenzic finds more, "real" vulnerabilities fast. Click to try it, buy it or download a solution FREE today! http://www.cenzic.com/downloads ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This list is sponsored by: Cenzic Need to secure your web apps NOW? Cenzic finds more, "real" vulnerabilities fast. Click to try it, buy it or download a solution FREE today! http://www.cenzic.com/downloads ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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- Where is the Wireless line? Barry Fawthrop (Sep 05)
- RE: Where is the Wireless line? Matt Steer (Sep 05)
- RE: Where is the Wireless line? adam.slader (Sep 05)
- Re: Where is the Wireless line? Harry Hoffman (Sep 05)
- Re: Where is the Wireless line? Juergen Fiedler (Sep 05)
- Re: Where is the Wireless line? List Spam (Sep 05)
- Re: Where is the Wireless line? Noah (Sep 05)
- Re: Where is the Wireless line? DaKahuna (Sep 05)
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- Re: Where is the Wireless line? swinginscott (Sep 05)
- Re: Where is the Wireless line? Timothy Shea (Sep 05)
- Re: Where is the Wireless line? Morning Wood (Sep 05)
- Re: Where is the Wireless line? swinginscott (Sep 05)
- Re: Where is the Wireless line? Barry Fawthrop (Sep 05)
- RE: Where is the Wireless line? Matt Steer (Sep 05)