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Re: Legality of WEP Cracking
From: Chris Travers <chris () metatrontech com>
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 00:29:35 -0700
Hi Richard;Pen testing without permission is dangerous. I would advise against it both from a marketing an a legal perspective (IANAL).
Marketing: What you are proposing stinks like a protection racket. I know that is not your intent, but that is what a customer is going to think. Wardriving, looking for WEP connections may be OK from this perspective provided that you don't do any further action (like key cracking). I would also say that you may be able to get further permission to demo the problems, and then it would be OK first. (Just ask first ;-) )
Legal (IANAL): Whenever you crack anything without permission you may be argued to be tresspassing. This may mean that you have to plead your case in court right or wrong. If you want a legal opinion, however, I would suggest hiring an attourney.
Be careful, contact an attourney, and also run mock sales pitches by others who are not technically savvy to see how they respond.
I am leaving the original email below as a point of reference to the proposal I am warning about.
Best Wishes, Chris Travers Richard Brinson wrote:
During an internal business development meeting yesterday we were discussing new ways of picking up pen testing clients. One of our junior engineers suggested that we go war driving, crack some WEP keys and then approach each company offering services to make them more secure. The idea was put down straight away on the basis that without prior approval we would be breaking the law. However, upon further discussion a case was made that (moral issues aside) provided we only captured traffic passively, and as long as we did not try to connect or send any packets to any devices - would the law bebroken? Does the law state anywhere that we can not analyse air traffic that isbroadcast into the public domain? (if so surely we would all be breaking the law every time we picked up a network other than our own) and is it against the law to know someone else's WEP key when they have not made that information available to you?What are your thoughts on this? Kind regards, Richard BrinsonKanoo LtdThis message contains confidential information and is intended only for theindividual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This List Sponsored by: Cenzic Are you using SPI, Watchfire or WhiteHat? Consider getting clear vision with Cenzic See HOW Now with our 20/20 program! http://www.cenzic.com/c/2020 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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- RE: Legality of WEP Cracking Richard Brinson (May 18)
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- RE: Legality of WEP Cracking Richard Brinson (May 23)
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- RE: RE: Legality of WEP Cracking Erin Carroll (May 18)