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RE: Re: Interesting Ruling Regarding WiFi access
From: "Erin Carroll" <amoeba () amoebazone com>
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 21:26:06 -0700
List members, Okay, once the the door or car analogies start to fly it's time to move on to another subject. Until the legalities are more firmly established or case law and precedents become clearer, the grey areas between technical interpretations and the legal interpretations on this can be debated until the sun supernovas. Unless there is a pen-test specific post on this matter please consider this discussion closed. Further posts on the subject will be rejected. -- Erin Carroll Moderator SecurityFocus pen-test list "Do Not Taunt Happy-Fun Ball"
-----Original Message----- From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of cwright () bdosyd com au Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 7:42 PM To: pen-test () securityfocus com Subject: Re: Re: Interesting Ruling Regarding WiFi access Hello, No, your understanding of property rights is flawed. If I have no door, you are still breaking the law by entering my property without permission. There does not need to be anything that states "stay out". By default, you have no right to use the property of another. You need to have permission. So the issue is is there a message stating "come in". Without that express permission you have commited an illegal act. Whether it is also criominal is another matter. Regards, CraigYour analogy is flawed. A wireless network that does not use anymethods of controlling access. It does not have a door. It does not have a fence. It does not have anything that says "Stay Out". That's the problem, and that's why you should not go to jail. -------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- This List Sponsored by: Cenzic Are you using SPI, Watchfire or WhiteHat? Consider getting clear vision with Cenzic See HOW Now with our 20/20 program! http://www.cenzic.com/c/2020 -------------------------------------------------------------- ----------
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- RE: Interesting Ruling Regarding WiFi access cwright (Jun 02)
- RE: Interesting Ruling Regarding WiFi access Mike Messick (Jun 02)
- Re: Interesting Ruling Regarding WiFi access Thor (Hammer of God) (Jun 02)
- RE: Interesting Ruling Regarding WiFi access stonewall (Jun 03)
- Re: Interesting Ruling Regarding WiFi access Serg B. (Jun 04)
- Re: Interesting Ruling Regarding WiFi access Michael Hale (Jun 04)
- Re: Interesting Ruling Regarding WiFi access David M. Zendzian (Jun 04)
- RE: Interesting Ruling Regarding WiFi access stonewall (Jun 03)
- RE: Interesting Ruling Regarding WiFi access cwright (Jun 02)
- RE: Interesting Ruling Regarding WiFi access cwright (Jun 02)
- Re: Re: Interesting Ruling Regarding WiFi access cwright (Jun 04)
- Re: Re: Interesting Ruling Regarding WiFi access cwright (Jun 04)
- RE: Re: Interesting Ruling Regarding WiFi access Erin Carroll (Jun 04)