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RE: Mile2 Training (Certifications)
From: "Ken Kousky" <kkousky () ip3inc com>
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 09:00:38 -0400
When exploring certification programs it's also important to note that ANSI/OSI have a standard for the certification of professional licensing and certification programs. The ANSI/OSI framework does not allow for this kind of approach, where you have to buy a specific training product or program. A professional licensing process should be an independent test of competencies and not a measure of the training program an individual purchases. The DoD 8570 directive endorses ANSI/OSI certified certification programs - I think for this reason. It's not buying training but establishing competencies that matters. It's what you know, not what you buy. I think mostgood professional certifications are moving in this direction. We still have a long way to go before the processional standards for competency are clearly codified. Right now, the targeted skills continue to evolve with the exploits but we're starting to better understand the need for foundation skills and then specific applications of these skills. KWK -----Original Message----- From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of Clement Dupuis Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 7:18 PM To: ppsih () hol gr; 'Pete Herzog' Cc: 'Serge Vondandamo'; pen-test () securityfocus com Subject: RE: Mile2 Training (Certifications) There are lots of unethical people out there that will say to their advantage that you MUST take the class. This is simply because they are trying to sell you something. As it was explained previously it is possible to take it by filling a form to get your minimum of 2 years experience recognize. Do take care Clement -----Original Message----- From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of ppsih () hol gr Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 4:24 AM To: Pete Herzog Cc: Serge Vondandamo; pen-test () securityfocus com Subject: Re: Mile2 Training (Certifications) Hi, Well, I am also in Europe and a CEH instructor, and I do not know anything about such a requirement. In fact, I do have a couple of friends that gained their certification without attending the course. Regards, Panayiotis Quoting Pete Herzog <lists () isecom org>:
No, I am sure in Europe you MUST take the CEH course to sit for the CEH exam (I have heard this from CEH instructors and have just searched and found it at Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certified_Ethical_Hacker. This is NOT true of the OPST or OPSA. In France you can sit for just the exam by contacting Dreamlab Technologies: www.dreamlab.net. Sincerely, -pete.
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- RE: Mile2 Training (Certifications), (continued)
- RE: Mile2 Training (Certifications) Serge Vondandamo (Jul 11)
- RE: Mile2 Training (Certifications) ppsih (Jul 12)
- Re: Mile2 Training (Certifications) Pete Herzog (Jul 12)
- RE: Mile2 Training (Certifications) Russell Butturini (Jul 13)
- RE: Mile2 Training (Certifications) ppsih (Jul 13)
- RE: Mile2 Training (Certifications) Russell Butturini (Jul 13)
- RE: Mile2 Training (Certifications) Panayiotis Psihoyios (Jul 13)
- RE: Mile2 Training (Certifications) Serge Vondandamo (Jul 11)
- RE: Mile2 Training (Certifications) Ric Messier (Jul 13)
- Re: Mile2 Training (Certifications) ppsih (Jul 13)
- RE: Mile2 Training (Certifications) Clement Dupuis (Jul 13)
- RE: Mile2 Training (Certifications) Ken Kousky (Jul 15)
- Re: Mile2 Training (Certifications) Pete Herzog (Jul 16)
- Re: Mile2 Training (Certifications) Andrew Blyth (Jul 17)
- Re: Mile2 Training (Certifications) Jamie Riden (Jul 18)
- RE: Mile2 Training (Certifications) Ken Kousky (Jul 17)
- Re: Mile2 Training (Certifications) Pete Herzog (Jul 23)
- Re: Mile2 Training (Certifications) Jamie Riden (Jul 13)
- Certifications Andrew Blyth (Jul 13)
- RE: Mile2 Training (Certifications) Alex Balayan (Jul 11)
- Re: Security Testing Certifications (was Mile2 Training (Certifications)) Pete Herzog (Jul 12)