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RE: Symantec SGS Gateway Firewall DoS vulnerability


From: Clone <c70n3 () yahoo co in>
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 07:15:31 +0000 (GMT)

Well we have been fiddling with some configurations in
SGS but haven't blocked DoS so far. The vendor says we
need to add some more config. We will do that on
further resposne.

Meanwhile an INTERESTING observation. The windows
machines in this network even when not connected
physically or virtually to the network open a
connection on giving "telnet 192.168.1.101 25" or any
IP Address. I test the same thing in my network and it
doesn't happen in windows machines here.

Any idea with this. Looks like a Windows specific
issue. 
 
--- Paul Melson <pmelson () gmail com> wrote:

The issue is when you scan (nessus/nmap) a network
with Symantec SGS as
the firewall configured 
in application proxy mode, the firewall shows even
non-existent IP
addresses and ports to be 
open and live. This results in firewall reaching
it's maximum allowable
connection limit in 
just 2 to 3 minutes and network access through
firewall getting choked up.
Things start working well again as you stop the
scan.

SGS appliances were based on Symantec Enterprise
Firewall, formerly known as
Raptor.  It's a proxy firewall, so port scans give
all sorts of erroneous
results.  It's also capable of detecting and
thwarting port scans and DoS
attacks like synfloods.  If you can demonstrate
that, with these prevention
options enabled, that performing a scan of the
firewall causes disruption to
other traffic not to/from the scanning IP address,
then it's probably an
issue.  Otherwise, I don't think you've found
anything.


I'm pretty sure this is a serious issue and
Symantec is not ready to
accept it.

And I wouldn't expect them to.  SGS/SEF are no
longer being developed or
sold and will be EOL at the end of 2009.  At this
point, your clients need
to plan to replace them anyway.  If you also do
firewall design & support,
it sounds like an opportunity. :-)

PaulM





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