Re: PCI Compliance (Vulnerability Scans)

["David M. Zendzian" <dmz () dmzs com>]

Your right, I'm so use to dealing with Level 1 people that I forgot all
the others needed approved scanning vendors
http://usa.visa.com/business/accepting_visa/ops_risk_management/cisp_merchants.html?it=l2|%2Fbusiness%2Faccepting_visa%2Fops_risk_management%2Fcisp%2Ehtml|Merchants#anchor_2


But back to my original question, why are you looking for pci scanning
software? The process of becoming an approved vendor usually takes
multiple tools as well as the "human factor". I don't think you will
find 1 solution for scanning that you can buy and say "we're done".

David

Vivek Chudgar wrote:
> Correction - Level 2 and 3 merchants are also required to have
> external vuln scans by an ASV. Level 4 merchants are exempt but their
> acquirer can still require them to be scanned by an ASV.
>
> If a tool is just looking for ports 22,23,25,80 and 445 for service
> discovery, I highly doubt if it can pass the certification
> requirement.
>
> You are also right about the level of automation possible. Manual
> verification is necessary to eleminate false positives.
>
> - Vivek
>
> On 12/17/06, David M. Zendzian <dmz () dmzs com> wrote:
> > First, why are you looking for a PCI compliant tool?
> >
> > Second there are only 2 reasons to do vulnerability scanning. If you are
> > level 1 (merchant, service provider or hacked entity:) then you are
> > required to have external vulnerability scans by one of the authorized
> > scanning providers. There is no need here for software as the service
> > provider does all the work and provides you results.
> >
> > If you are looking to do your scans internally, there is no specific
> > needs outlined by PCI for internal vulnerability scans. PCI only says
> > you need to perform vulnerability scans. With that in mind, Nessus scans
> > work internally :)
> >
> > What are you trying to accomplish?
> >
> > David (Visa-QDSP)
> >
> > 09sparky () gmail com wrote:
> > > Thanks for all the great information (all).  I am now wondering
> > though, if you use an automated tool (VA Scanner that claims to be PCI
> > compliant), does that mean whatever it finds and whatever it rates it
> > (i.e. HIGH), is the final word, and the company fails? I guess what I
> > am asking, I was under the impression that PCI scans could be much
> > automated and very little to no user intervention was required (unlike
> > a Vulnerability Assessment/Penetration test).  However, many automated
> > tools have false positives.  Doesn't a company fail if they have any
> > "HIGH" findings? With that said, are you required to go through each
> > finding and validate?  If so, then you have just turned it into a
> > Vulnerability Assessment.
> > > Also, The Automated Tool I have been evaluating claims to be PCI
> > compliant.  However, for its discovery phase, it only uses ports
> > 22,23,25,80 and 445.  Upon finding any Host with these ports open, it
> > will then run a common port scan.  Is this way off?  What do most of
> > you do for host discovery (i.e. nmap scans of what ports? or different
> > tools?
> > > Any thoughts?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Sparky
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