Re: EC-Counsil

["Al Smolkin" <UnODir () hotpop com>]

You do mean EC-Council, right? 

Sorry about the spelling joke.


Now, here's what I think.

The cert is a joke, mainly because the test administered was not so much about the pen testing, but rather about a 
general knowledge of the stuff. As a 
matter of fact, I just ran into a guy from VeriSign, who works on IDS side, who took the exam and passed without a 
hitch, and he never took a course.

However, if you are serious about learning (that is, if you truly are fascinated by the world of security), then I 
wholeheartedly recommend Intense School's 
CEH course for one reason only,- the instructors. 

The two guys who taught the course when I went there were instrumental in designing the CEH cert, and carry a wealth of 
knowledge. 
Jon Nunes and Clement Dupuis.
Clement runs a site called cccure.org

I was blown away by the amount of knowledge pounded into me over the week (it was a bootcamp, really). And I was really 
disappointed that the exam 
didn't really reflect the course as a whole.

My $0.02

Al Smolkin
CEH, CCNA








On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:13:58 -0500, Chris Griffin wrote:

> List,
>
> I was looking to see if anyone had any exposure to ec counsil's CEH course.
> I have heard mixed views on the ec counsil, but nothing about their courses.
> I dont really care about getting a certification, but I wouldnt mind 
> getting one also.
> My main concern is, learning quality stuff that I can put to use in a 
> security career.
>
> As im sure everyone feels the same, I Dont want to drop my money on 
> something that looks good,
> but really isnt going to help build knowledge.
>
> for a quick reference, here is a link to the exam/course I found
>
> http://www.mile2.com/certified_ethical_hacker_training_v3.html
>
> and http://www.eccouncil.org/CEH.htm
>
> Does anyone know if this is quality stuff, or is there something out 
> there better?
> (A major factor to me looking at this was, I can find a class local so I 
> dont have to travel)
>
> Regards,
> Chris
>
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