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Re: BO2k Port?


From: Daniel Roethlisberger <daniel () roe ch>
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 18:42:20 +0200


PM Systems - Rick Woehler <RWoehler () PMSysCorp com> wrote:
Doing an audit on a gov agency with a Raptor Firewall. I was
shocked to see nmap repeatedly reporting 31335 and 31337 UDP
open on the firewall. I'm told by my firewall guys that Raptors
and VelociRaptors install with all ports closed and ports have
to be specifically opened to allow traffic. I can't imagine the
person that installed this firewall would allow those ports.

First off, 31337/udp was only used by good old BO 1.2 (SirDystic's
original BO), and not BO2K (which has no real default ports, and
can use TCP too).

Second, nmap reporting open UDP ports is due to the way UDP is
designed to work: a closed port sends an ICMP port unreachable
back, while an open one sends back nothing (as UDP is
connectionless it is generally up to the listening application to
send UDP datagrams back or not). So essentially, there's no way to
distinguish firewalled and open UDP ports. I suspect that the
thing you scanned just drops all packets on those UDP ports,
that's why you see them open in nmap.

Cheers,
Dan


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