RE: Ethical Hacking Courses

[mht () clark net]

Argghh...

The Ultimate/Ethical Hacking course was originally developed at a former 
Big N organization and then re-created from scratch at E&Y.  The founders 
of Foundstone who were the authors of the material E&Y again 
re-created/updated the material from scratch at Foundstone.  E&Y and 
Foundstone had a falling out about the name, so therefore E&Y got to keep 
the name Ethical Hacking and Foundstone changed their course to Ultimate 
Hacking.

Material keeps on getting updated to keep up with the latest script 
kiddies, etc..
"Through the router, through the firewall, into the corporations we go" was 
tutorial by some of the original writers of the material presented at one 
of the local security conferences in order to polish up the material before 
offering the course to the massess.

The course helped acquire the right material and enthusiasm to get the 
publisher's primed to publish Hacking Exposed and then Hacking Exposed II.

/hope this helps

Anyways, the course currently offered by Foundstone lacks some of the 
fundamentals on why and where, and history for the reason why security 
exploits are so abudant in the wild, but offers plenty of hands-on time..

I often wonder why organization don't offer courses like "Impractical 
Internet Security" or "Useless NT/2000 Security tools that won't help some 
script kiddie from breaking your web server"  Those sound like fun courses 
to teach.. :)


At 09:01 AM 6/12/2001 -0400, Osborne-1, Brett wrote:
> Verisign also conducts a similar course:
> http://www.verisign.com/training/courses/hacking/index.html
>
> Brett Osborne
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Talisker [mailto:Talisker () networkintrusion co uk]
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 12:47 PM
> To: Penetration Testers
> Subject: Ethical Hacking Courses
>
>
> Hi
>
> I'm currently looking at the various ethical hacking courses that are on the
> market.
>
> Are there any thoughts from you pen testing gurus about which is the best.
> I've heard about the ISS Ethical Hacking Course and Foundstones Ultimate
> Hacking Course, both are 4 days and similar in price, are there any others?
>
> Would it be better value to mix and match at Sans or attend Defcon, has
> anyone out there compared the merits of the various courses.
>
> Take Care
> Andy
> URLs purposefully suppressed, had my monthly quota  ;o)