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Re: [PEN-TEST] Education. Formal or not?
From: David Ford <david () LINUX COM>
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 22:24:58 -0800
ph00dy wrote:
1.Is college a waste of time for pen-test/auditing/risk assessment professionals? 2.If so how does one prove what they know to a perspective employer? 3.What is the practical value of a college degree in our field? What about in the long run?
Although formal education may be quite a bit behind in the materials used and content taught, those are not the only parts of education that are important. Structure and methodology are most important and aren't readily apparent. Excercise your mind, learn how to learn, not memorize. Otherwise your learning stops when you leave class. This is why other classes are also important. Don't skip "culture" classes just because you think it's a waste of your time. The best way to show what you know is to thoroughly learn your current skills and keep a high-standards work ethic. The rest will take care of itself as you move along. You'll develop a very solid history. When you interview, you won't come across like you think you know how to do stuff, you'll show you -do- know how to do stuff. For the 'old and wise', completed degrees can show more than the simple appearance of a completed coursework. For younger people, this may be hard to understand. Wisdom is something that requires time and experience. There's a difference between being smart and being wise. -d -- "The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."
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- [PEN-TEST] Education. Formal or not? ph00dy (Nov 08)
- Re: [PEN-TEST] Education. Formal or not? Erik Tayler (Nov 09)
- Re: [PEN-TEST] Education. Formal or not? Gregory McCann (Nov 09)
- Re: [PEN-TEST] Education. Formal or not? Nasir Farhat Khan (Nov 09)
- Re: [PEN-TEST] Education. Formal or not? Nicholas Harring (Nov 09)
- Re: [PEN-TEST] Education. Formal or not? Shetron, Richard (Nov 09)
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- Re: [PEN-TEST] Education. Formal or not? David Ford (Nov 09)
- Re: [PEN-TEST] Education. Formal or not? Johann van Duyn (Nov 09)