Re: Expanding upon the obvious

[Aldo Persi <aldo.persi () gmail com>]

Hi


Re. iOS broadcasting  their last 3 wireless networks have a look at

https://github.com/hubert3/iSniff-GPS

believe it was presented at blackhat



On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 4:49 AM, Patrick Laverty
<patrick_laverty () brown edu>wrote:

> I think Stop & Shop grocery stores are doing something tangential to this.
> If you use their in-store price scanner, it will beep at you on occasion,
> telling you about deals on an item that just happens to be in the  aisle
> you're standing in! So while they might not know who *I* am (or they
> might), they sure know where I am in the store.
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Joe Ashbrook <joe.ashbrook () gmail com>wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I just wanted to throw this out there as I rarely hear anything about
> > 802.11 tracking. Aside from a few companies, such as Path Intelligence or
> > Skyhook (SpotRank technology), I never hear of any commercial systems that
> > attempt to track mobile devices (users). Of course, the companies listed
> > above are rather opaque in describing how their technology works.
> >
> > As everyone on this mailing list is aware, basic 802.11 "hacking"
> > techniques can provide a lot of useful information on mobile devices and
> > their users. I am surprised there has not been more commercial interest in
> > data mining of mobile devices. Especially given that staying withing the
> > data link layer has proven to be legal - or so it seems the golden rule is
> > to not include payload...
> >
> > Anyways, in this era of "Big Data" I expected to see more retailers (or
> > any commercial entity) interested in collecting information about devices
> > within physical proximity of them. I expect the most powerful use in
> > analyzing mobile device data would be in a deanonymized form, and perhaps
> > due to privacy concerns is why companies are shy to experiment with this,
> > or already are and just keep in on the DL.
> >
> > I envision retailers using this type of technology to create 'shopper'
> > profiles. For instance, reconstructing a devices preferred network list (by
> > capturing directed probe requests) may give them information about where
> > else a shopper visits (directed probe request for SSID 'Panera'). Or, cross
> > referencing with other shoppers PNL, may be able to identify relationships
> > among shoppers (directed probe request from Joe's device SSID
> > "ByteMe", directed probe request from Tim's device for SSID "ByteMe").
> >
> > For a final project in completing my undergrad degree I wrote a paper on
> > this, which I attached if anyone cares to skim it. It has some code at the
> > end for a Kismet protocol dissector to insert 802.11 probes in a mysql db.
> > This was a proof of concept for the class intended only as an
> > academic exercise.
> >
> > I recall some researcher (~ a year ago) explaining how iOS devices will
> > broadcast their last 3 wireless networks connected, which I never heard
> > anything else about. So I know this is not a new topic. Being such a
> > fascinating subject I am curious if anyone else has some input in regards
> > to this.
> >
> > -Joe
> >
> >
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