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Re: AV for OSX
From: Bill Swearingen <hevnsnt () i-hacked com>
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 10:04:13 -0500
DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO. =) On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Christopher Croad <ccroad () syr edu> wrote:
I have mixed feelings. I figure AV is at best 30% effective, and I know I can keep my Mac pretty secure without it. Still, I run Sophos on my Mac and it doesn't get in the way. If it did, I would have no issue in shutting it down. AV is like seatbelts on an airplane. They provide a little security during bumpy flights, but a lap belt isn't going to do much when the plane is rocking and rolling ( or crashing). Chris Croad -----Original Message----- From: pauldotcom-bounces () pdc-mail pauldotcom com [mailto: pauldotcom-bounces () pdc-mail pauldotcom com] On Behalf Of Josh More Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:23 PM To: PaulDotCom Security Weekly Mailing List Subject: Re: [Pauldotcom] AV for OSX I agree with Ryan's view. Also, as a counterpoint to Michael's, it is surprisingly difficult to not do anything stupid under OSX. The only way I've found to be reasonably secure is to not run as admin (not hard, actually), use Little Snitch and Glimmer Proxy (annoying) AND replace Safari completely with a hardened Firefox (noscript, HTTPS Everywhere, Request Policy, WOT, Adblock+, Certificate Patrol, etc)... which pretty much completely kills a large part of the OSX experience. When you add to this, the tendency of Apple to release patches as frequently as cicadas, I don't think that adding an additional layer of defense, imperfect as it is, is a bad idea. I use Sophos on mine. -Josh More On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Michael D. Wood <mike () itsecuritypros org> wrote:I also agree. Don't believe the hype, when/if it really comes down toit -maybe, then look into something. In the meantime, be security aware and don't do anything stupid. -- Michael D. Wood ITSecurityPros.org www.itsecuritypros.org -----Original Message----- From: pauldotcom-bounces () mail pauldotcom com [mailto:pauldotcom-bounces () mail pauldotcom com] On Behalf Of AlexKornilovSent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:55 AM To: pauldotcom () mail pauldotcom com Subject: Re: [Pauldotcom] AV for OSX On 8/22/12 10:20 PM, John Strand wrote:No. The reason? I have yet to be on a test were it gets in the way. I do know it causes your system to run slower and crash more. I would rather have a faster, less secure system than the illusion of security.+1 I agree. Don't believe propaganda from yellow press IT blogs. _______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom () mail pauldotcom com http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com _______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom () mail pauldotcom com http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com_______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom () mail pauldotcom com http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com _______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom () mail pauldotcom com http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com
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- AV for OSX xgermx (Aug 22)
- Re: AV for OSX Lester Nichols (Aug 22)
- Re: AV for OSX John Strand (Aug 22)
- Re: AV for OSX Alex Kornilov (Aug 23)
- Re: AV for OSX Michael D. Wood (Aug 23)
- Re: AV for OSX Josh More (Aug 23)
- Re: AV for OSX Christopher Croad (Aug 24)
- Re: AV for OSX Robin Wood (Aug 24)
- Re: AV for OSX Ray Davidson (Aug 24)
- Re: AV for OSX Bill Swearingen (Aug 24)
- Re: AV for OSX xgermx (Aug 24)
- Re: AV for OSX Jeremy Pommerening (Aug 24)
- Re: AV for OSX Alex Kornilov (Aug 24)
- Re: AV for OSX John Strand (Aug 24)
- Re: AV for OSX Michael Salmon (Aug 24)
- Re: AV for OSX Alex Kornilov (Aug 23)
- Re: AV for OSX ash (Aug 25)
- Re: AV for OSX John Strand (Aug 25)
- Re: AV for OSX ash (Aug 25)
- Re: AV for OSX Arch Angel (Aug 25)
- Re: AV for OSX John Strand (Aug 26)