Re: ideas needed

[Mike Patterson <mike () snowcrash ca>]

By no means was I advocating unfettered access, or no education.

But there's a big difference between educating them, and trying to scare 
the shit out of them. :) There's a saying in law, "Hard cases make bad 
laws." Lindh is a hard case, and for every kid like him or the 
abductees, there's hunndreds or thousands you never hear about, because 
nothing happens to them.

All I'm saying is we need to keep some perspective, both for ourselves 
and for our children. It's a tough line to walk, to be sure.

Mike


On 7/23/2011 3:43 PM, Michael Miller wrote:
> I happen to agree with you except.  I don't think giving your child
> full unmonitored access is a good idea.  It's not the fear that
> someone might abduct my child.  I think that can happen to anyone even
> if your a excellent parent.  It's all the other cruft on the internet
> that one could look at and be influenced with.  If you think about how
> malleable a young mind is.  Do you want your child going down the same
> road as John Phillip Walker Lindh? [1]  I know my child will have
> access to other places that don't really filter internet access.  Like
> the public library were anything goes.  I think the schools try and
> keep an eye on what kids are doing though instructor supervision.
>
>
>
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Walker_Lindh
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Mike Patterson<mike () snowcrash ca>  wrote:
> > On 2011/07/20 6:00 PM, CP Constantine wrote:
> > > A good exercise for kids is sort of a re-work of the 1980's
> > > dont-talk-to-strangers campaign. (which was basically, no matter how
> > > much info they have that indicates they actually know you, still deny
> > > trust). is getting kids to ask themselves, how much info about them
> > > would a stranger have to know about them, before they might think this
> > > person was actually a trusted family friend:- now put much less than
> > > that online.
> >
> > One thing to be cautious of when trying to educate kids is the same
> > thing that campaign tripped over. Turns out that kids aren't actually
> > all that much endangered by strangers; parental kidnappings are far more
> > common, as is abuse. Whoops.
> >
> > Something I see a lot (and this is a general comment inspired by yours,
> > not an attack on yours) is ITSec folks getting *really* strident about
> > OMG DO NOT SHARE ANYTHING EVER IT IS UNSAFE AND YOU WILL BE RAPED AND
> > KILLED.
> >
> > Kids get messages like that a lot. About everything. They get
> > overloaded, and tune you out. Hell, they tune you out anyway, but
> > there's no reason to give them a real reason to do it. :-) So be
> > moderate in how you present things.
> >
> > Mike
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