Re: Sans GSEC training suggestions.

[James Costello <genesiswave () gmail com>]

Another option is to look for a local Mentor track, find and friend the
teacher.  They may be aware of additional discount methods that could reduce
the cost by up to 50%.

On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Seth Misenar <seth.misenar () gmail com> wrote:

> Brandon,
>
> Full Disclosure: I teach for SANS.  Don't think that will bias my
> response, but just wanted to be clear about it up front....
>
> You might already be aware of this option, but, if not, check into
> SANS' facilitator (a.k.a. work study, volunteer) program.  Details are
> here: http://www.sans.org/security-training/volunteer.php  The (back
> then) volunteer program is actually how I got started with SANS, so I
> definitely remember it fondly.
>
> Basically in exchange for $800, some manual labor, and some
> clerical/administrative work, SANS will allow you to take a class, get
> access to the OnDemand version of the class, and (I believe) get a
> certification attempt.  The certification attempt isn't directly
> listed at the link above so this might have changed in recent years.
> Note: Of course, you will still have to foot the bill for travel and
> hotel...  HOwever, This is an especially nice option if there is a
> conference or Community SANS event running in your area.
>
> Beyond all the training/cert goodies, at conferences, you will get to
> hang out with some pretty great like-minded security folks that are
> also serving as facilitators.
>
> RE: Books
> SANS courses, and the associated certifications, get updated pretty
> regularly, which, IMO,  makes published study guides less helpful than
> with other more stagnant courses.  The most significant recent changes
> to the 401 curriculum that come to mind are major updates to both Day
> 5, Windows Security, and Day 6, Linux/Unix Security.  The 2003 book
> would be woefully outdated.  I also doubt the 2009 book would reflect
> these recent changes.  However, the majority of the thousands of pages
> of GSEC material will not have changed substantially since 2009.
> Can't really speak with any more detail to these books as I haven't
> read them, but I hope this provided a bit of context.
>
> Best of luck,
> Seth
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Brandon McGinty
> <brandon.mcginty () gmail com> wrote:
> > All,
> > I am looking into taking the GSEC next Spring.
> > However, the $4045, or $3072, that the SECURITY 401 class and boot camp
> > would run me, is a bit more than I can stand to spend at the present.
> > I can pay the $899 for the exam itself, and I tend to do better with
> > self-study anyhow.
> > Also, Sans has discontinued selling it's study materials for courses, so
> > buying them directly is not an option.
> > I have found the following books on Amazon:
> > ----
> > GSEC GIAC Security Essential Certification Exam Preparation Course in a
> > Book for Passing the GSEC Certified Exam - The How To Pass on Your First
> > Try Certification
> > Study Guide
> > by William Manning (Paperback - Nov 17, 2009)
> > ----
> > The GSEC Prep Guide: Mastering SANS GIAC Security Essentials
> > by
> > Mike Chapple
> > (Paperback - Jun 27, 2003)
> > ----
> > The first has less than stellar reviews, while the second seems a bit
> > outdated, and also has negative comments.
> > I was thinking of getting a book for each of the 62? sections of the
> > GSEC exam, but that might become rather costly as well.
> > Do any of you have any resources that you can recommend?
> > Are these indeed the only GSEC books published?
> > As always, thanks in advance for your help.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Brandon McGinty
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