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Technical challenge, or am I missing something...


From: vlape at me.com (Vincent Lape)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:42:03 -0700

For electronic sigs i use USPS EPM (US Post Office Electronic  
Postmark). Its pretty easy to configure and is not all that expensive.  
You do have to pay per sig (kinda like buying a stamp) however you can  
see a history of the "signatures" purchased. You can get over the  
whole "he faked the date" thing because the signature includes date  
and time the signature was applied.

take a peek at http://www.usps.com/electronicpostmark/welcome.htm and 
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/HA010971711033.aspx

Hope this helps
On Oct 13, 2009, at 11:37 AM, Soft Reset wrote:

Ok, something to (hopefully) challenge you with:

I often send email digitally signed so that receivers can not modify  
the message and claim I wrote it (the modified version).  However,  
if I do that, what is stopping the receiver from claiming "they  
never got it" and I'm falsifying the email in the first place?  If I  
include the date in the signed message, they can still claim I put  
*any* date I wanted in there.

For clarity, consider this scenario:

Dan writes and signs the following message and sends it to Tracy on  
Jan 1, 2009:

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
Hello Tracy, today is January 1, 2009
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)

iEYEARECAAYFAkoOqzMACgkQ3GktKdDXU7up4QCglGa6gjD8MX3Gytushc65cVkA
IJkAniZ3hQ1WyC0SbecPJRKY9xeSsHTA
=KqXV
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Dan then tells the boss, "I sent the email to Tracy."

Tracy claims, "I never got any such email.  He probably just made  
the email, faked the date and then signed it to make it look legit.   
He's lying!"


====================

Assuming the mail server administrators have no sense of logging or  
auditing, what can Dan do to provide "proof" of sending?

Thanks again everyone!

--SR6
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