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Re: shodan.io actively infiltrating ntp.org IPv6 pools for scanning purposes
From: enki <enki () fsck pl>
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 16:47:07 +0100
---- Wł. Pt, 29 sty 2016 15:21:01 +0100 Hazel napisał(a) ----
On 27 January 2016 at 14:43, Kurt Seifried <kseifried () redhat com> wrote:On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 4:24 AM, Luca BRUNO <lucab () debian org> wrote:For oss-sec crowd: is there anything we can do to improve the situation and avoid similar cases in the future? Should crowd-sourced and fundamental services like this be encouraged to move to a stronger WoT?[...] Sadly we can't really rely on the IoT device makers to fix this, they have basically 0 incentive to prevent scanners from hitting their products (they're already sold, to late for the customer to make an informed decision).I hope you'll forgive me making a modest proposal here, but it seems to me that there might be an opportunity here for Linux distributions that are upstream of IoT vendors to modify their default configuration to address this. My somewhat off-the-cuff suggestion would be to... 1. Add an *additional, secondary* IPv6 address to external interfaces that is: -> a. generated in accordance with the IPv6 Privacy Extensions (i.e. RFC 4941) -> b. firewalled by default against all traffic except NTP in either direction 2. Configure the NTP *client* to use this secondary address as the source for outgoing NTP traffic, instead of the default address? ...thereby avoiding revealing the primary address of the host to would-be scanners?
I'd go even further and use the IPv6 privacy-enhanced address for all outgoing connections, not only NTP. It's only a matter of time before someone sets up a debian mirror for example that logs source addresses and launches scans against them. -- enki () fsck pl
Current thread:
- shodan.io actively infiltrating ntp.org IPv6 pools for scanning purposes Luca BRUNO (Jan 27)
- Re: shodan.io actively infiltrating ntp.org IPv6 pools for scanning purposes Loganaden Velvindron (Jan 27)
- Re: shodan.io actively infiltrating ntp.org IPv6 pools for scanning purposes Richard Johnson (Jan 27)
- Re: shodan.io actively infiltrating ntp.org IPv6 pools for scanning purposes Thomas B . Rücker (Jan 27)
- Re: shodan.io actively infiltrating ntp.org IPv6 pools for scanning purposes Kurt Seifried (Jan 27)
- Re: shodan.io actively infiltrating ntp.org IPv6 pools for scanning purposes Zach W. (Jan 27)
- Re: shodan.io actively infiltrating ntp.org IPv6 pools for scanning purposes Hazel (Jan 29)
- Re: shodan.io actively infiltrating ntp.org IPv6 pools for scanning purposes enki (Jan 29)
- Re: shodan.io actively infiltrating ntp.org IPv6 pools for scanning purposes Scott Herbert (Jan 29)
- Re: shodan.io actively infiltrating ntp.org IPv6 pools for scanning purposes Daniel Micay (Jan 29)
- Re: shodan.io actively infiltrating ntp.org IPv6 pools for scanning purposes Daniel Micay (Jan 29)
- Re: shodan.io actively infiltrating ntp.org IPv6 pools for scanning purposes Loganaden Velvindron (Jan 27)
- Re: [Pool] shodan.io actively infiltrating ntp.org IPv6 pools for scanning purposes Rob Janssen (Jan 28)
- Re: [Pool] shodan.io actively infiltrating ntp.org IPv6 pools for scanning purposes Asbjorn Hojmark (Jan 28)