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Re: Heartbleed, clients and Android
From: Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac () debian org>
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 12:36:35 +0200
On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 12:21:29PM +0200, Hanno Böck wrote:
On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 11:54:58 +0200 Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac () debian org> wrote:On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 11:30:29AM +0200, Hanno Böck wrote:I was asking myself some questions and I think others with more insight into what heartbleed means may be able to answer quickly: How does this affect client software? The PoCs we see send some malicous payload to servers and get some memory dumps. That doesn't affect clients?Yes, it does affect clients.Can anyone explain how an attack scenario would work? Is it like: * we have a Man-in-the-Middle. * Client/Server establish connection. * MitM inserts a malicious package with the heartbeat-payload and sends it to the client, client parses package, verifying MAC fails, but it still will output memory
Heartbeat can be sent before the ChangeCipherSpec message is sent, so you don't have any TLS protection for that MITM. So yeah, you can sit at a nearby wireless hotspot, wait for any client to do some TLS trafic and heartbleed them (providing the client uses OpenSSL).
Or is it ONLY an issue if we contact a malicious server that may extract random information from the application's memory? (which would reduce the impact somewhat, e.g. operating system update systems or wget etc. wouldn't have to worry)
It's not hard to make people contact malicious servers, I think. Regards, -- Yves-Alexis Perez
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