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Re: [NSE] Several changes to mssql.lua and SQL Server scripts
From: Patrik Karlsson <patrik () cqure net>
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 17:45:44 +0100
On Feb 28, 2011, at 19:55 , Chris Woodbury wrote:
Patrik- I had a discussion with one of my colleagues this weekend which left me wondering whether there is any need now for the ms-sql-discover script. Originally, of course, it did all of the discover, but since we ditched that approach a while ago, I feel that it's basically just ms-sql-info without the accurate version detection (in fact, you could get the same functionality with nmap -sSU -p T:445,U:1434 --script ms-sql-info --script-args mssql.scanned-ports-only). At the same time, I think it's potentially confusing to users as to what it is and whether it needs to be used. So, unless you feel otherwise, I say let's delete it.
It provides us with the possibility to run against a different port than 1433 without providing the instance-port argument. Essentially what named probes or the force argument would. Eg: ./nmap -p 1435 192.168.56.101 --script ms-sql-discover,ms-sql-query Don't know if it's worth keeping for that purpose though. Probably not? //Patrik
-chris On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Patrik Karlsson <patrik () cqure net> wrote: On Feb 26, 2011, at 21:06 , Chris Woodbury wrote:Thanks for catching the unintended change in -brute. I was testing something out and forgot to revert before I updated the documentation. I should do a better job of checking my patches. Everything else sounds good, though; let's merge it!Ok, it's merged into trunk. Hopefully, without braking anything.-chris On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 4:04 AM, Patrik Karlsson <patrik () cqure net> wrote:On Feb 25, 2011, at 23:31 , Chris Woodbury wrote:On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Patrik Karlsson <patrik () cqure net>wrote:On Feb 25, 2011, at 00:15 , Chris Woodbury wrote:Based on all of that, I have a few comments: * Now that we have instance-name and instance-port, I'm not sure thatit's intuitive that the way to hit all instances is by specifying instance-name=all, especially considering the case where there are instances we don't know the names of. How about having a script argument like mssql.all-instances?I've added a instance-all argument to align better with the other names.Does that make sense?Good idea.* I really like the idea that it's now possible to use SQL Server as aproxy for doing Windows password testing. However, I think we should put up some hurdles for the user. Virtually all the Windows networks I've worked with have had account lockout policies in place, and I'm concerned that someone could accidentally end up brute-forcing a domain and locking out a bunch of accounts. I think we ought to add a script argument to enable it.At first, I didn't understand the problem here, as you previously wrotethat you modified the script to abort once it detected a lockout.When I tested it I noticed what happened, and that there's no way ofdetecting that an account has been locked out based on the error message returned by the server.I agree that there's a risk of locking out a number of accounts,potentially the whole domain, if you run the script without knowing what your doing or how it works.Either we document this with a few exclamation marks, or we simply failto start the script (if Windows authentication is used) and return an explanation why and instructions how to proceed.We could use an argument that tells the script how many attempts toperform for each account, if unset and the authentication method is set to Windows, the script won't start.How about that? Actually, since you mention it, it might be nice to have an "only do thismany attempts" argument for SQL Server authentication as well, since those can also have lockouts. But maybe that's just something the user should control with the password database (incidentally, the brute script now tries the username as the password - should that be configurable?).Anyway, I'd be fine with doing something like that for Windows at least,or maybe just a ms-sql-brute.brute-windows-accounts argument, so that it's explicit. I think either would be fine, as long as it's an extra step that is required and is only applicable for Windows authentication. I think controlling the amount of tries should be done by the number of entries in the password database. Since we detect account lockouts when sql authentication is used, we don't need an additional hurdle here in my opinion. I've made the following changes to the ms-sql-brute script: * If the script is started ONLY with the mssql.domain argument, it returns the following message: | ms-sql-brute: | Windows authentication was enabled but the argument | ms-sql-brute.brute-windows-accounts was not given. As there is currently no | way of detecting accounts being locked out when Windows authentication is | used, make sure that the amount entries in the password list |_ (passdb argument) are at least 2 entries below the lockout threshold. When the ms-sql-brute.brute-windows-accounts argument is given it runs as expected. Regarding changes to the ms-sql-brute script I would like to re-write it so that it uses the brute library I wrote a while back. But let's merge this first :)Let me know what you think about all of that. In the meantime, I'mgoing to do some documentation.Great! I took a shot at this in the attached patch; let me know what you think.There's also a small bugfix in there in mssql.lua, where I changed a "host" to "instance.host", which fixed a bug for broadcast-ms-sql-discover.nse I've applied it but it failed on the ms-sql-discover script, so I did that one manually. Also it removed the change to ms-sql-brute which makes it work together with Windows authentication, so I added that again. I've done a bunch of testing too and unless there's something else, I think we should try to merge this? //Patrik -- Patrik Karlsson http://www.cqure.net http://www.twitter.com/nevdull77_______________________________________________ Sent through the nmap-dev mailing list http://cgi.insecure.org/mailman/listinfo/nmap-dev Archived at http://seclists.org/nmap-dev/-- Patrik Karlsson http://www.cqure.net http://www.twitter.com/nevdull77
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- Re: [NSE] Several changes to mssql.lua and SQL Server scripts Patrik Karlsson (Feb 17)
- Re: [NSE] Several changes to mssql.lua and SQL Server scripts Chris Woodbury (Feb 18)
- Re: [NSE] Several changes to mssql.lua and SQL Server scripts Patrik Karlsson (Feb 19)
- Re: [NSE] Several changes to mssql.lua and SQL Server scripts Chris Woodbury (Feb 24)
- Re: [NSE] Several changes to mssql.lua and SQL Server scripts Patrik Karlsson (Feb 25)
- Re: [NSE] Several changes to mssql.lua and SQL Server scripts Chris Woodbury (Feb 25)
- Re: [NSE] Several changes to mssql.lua and SQL Server scripts Patrik Karlsson (Feb 26)
- Re: [NSE] Several changes to mssql.lua and SQL Server scripts Chris Woodbury (Feb 26)
- Re: [NSE] Several changes to mssql.lua and SQL Server scripts Patrik Karlsson (Feb 26)
- Re: [NSE] Several changes to mssql.lua and SQL Server scripts Chris Woodbury (Feb 28)
- Re: [NSE] Several changes to mssql.lua and SQL Server scripts Patrik Karlsson (Mar 02)
- Re: [NSE] Several changes to mssql.lua and SQL Server scripts Chris Woodbury (Mar 08)
- Re: [NSE] Several changes to mssql.lua and SQL Server scripts Patrik Karlsson (Feb 13)