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Re: AWS WAF list


From: "Justin H." <justindh.ml () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 09:28:37 -0800

That matches my experience with these types of problems in the past.  Especially when the end-users don't have a process for white-listing.  We actually got a response from one WAF user to "connect to another network to log in, then you should be able to use the site, because it's just the login page that's protected".

I am working with someone off-list, so I have hope this can be resolved without account gymnastics. :)

Justin H.

Owen DeLong wrote:
The whole situation with these WAF as a service setups is a nightmare for the affected (afflicted) parties.

I saw this problem from both sides when I was at Akamai. It’s not great from the service provider side, but it’s an 
absolute shit show for anyone on the wrong side of a block. There’s no accountability or process for redress of errors 
whatsoever. The impacted party isn’t a customer of the WAF publisher, so they cant get any traction there. The WAF 
subscriber blindly applies the WAF and it’s virtually impossible to track down anyone there who even knows that they 
subscribe to such a thing, let alone get them to take useful action.

Best of luck.  The only thing I saw that worked while I was at Akamai was a few entities subscribed to the WAF service 
and then complained about getting blocked from their own web sites. Since they were then Akamai WAF customers, they 
could get Akamai to take action.

Crazy.

Owen


On Feb 16, 2024, at 09:19, Justin H. <justindh.ml () gmail com> wrote:

Justin H. wrote:
Hello,

We found out recently that we are on the HostingProviderIPList (found here 
https://docs.aws.amazon.com/waf/latest/developerguide/aws-managed-rule-groups-ip-rep.html) at AWS and it's affecting our 
customers' access to various websites.  We are a datacenter, and a hosting provider, but we have plenty of enterprise 
customers with eyeballs.

We're finding it difficult to find a technical contact that we can reach since we're not an AWS customer.  Does anyone 
have a contact or advice on a solution?
Sadly we're not getting any traction from standard AWS support, and end users of the WAF list like Reddit and 
Eventbrite are refusing to whitelist anyone.  Does anyone have any AWS contacts that might be able to assist?  Our 
enterprise customers are becoming more and more impacted.

Justin H.


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