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Re: transit and peering costs projections
From: Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com>
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 11:32:52 -0700
On 10/15/23 8:33 PM, Matthew Petach wrote:
Haha, when I was at Cisco in the late 90's and was working on VoIP stuff we were working with Sprint trying to get them onboard for a residential voice project. They were really insistent on using AAL2 to conserve bandwidth. I told them at the time that the bandwidth for voice was going to be insignificant and it wasn't a big deal that RTP wasn't as efficient. They looked at me like i had leprosy with body parts falling off. Like the next month it was announced that data had surpassed voice for the first time. We didn't get the contract, fwiw. But they never launched anything either. Was there ever any significant deployment of AAL2?I think we often forget just how much of a massive inversion the communications industry has undergone; back in the 80s, when I started working in networking, everything was DS0 voice channels, and data was just a strange side business that nobody in the telcos really understood or wanted to sell to. At the time, the volume of money being raked in from those DS0/VGE channels was mammoth comparedto the data networking side; we weren't even a rounding error. But as theroles reversed and the pyramid inverted, the data networking costs didn't rise to meet the voice costs (no matter how hard the telcos tried to push VGE-mileage-based pricing models!
Mike
Current thread:
- Re: transit and peering costs projections, (continued)
- Re: transit and peering costs projections Tim Burke (Oct 14)
- Re: transit and peering costs projections Ryan Hamel (Oct 14)
- Re: transit and peering costs projections Tim Burke (Oct 14)
- Re: transit and peering costs projections Dave Taht (Oct 14)
- Re: transit and peering costs projections Bill Woodcock (Oct 15)
- Re: transit and peering costs projections Ryan Hamel (Oct 14)
- Re: transit and peering costs projections Mike Hammett (Oct 15)
- Re: transit and peering costs projections Tim Burke (Oct 15)
- Re: transit and peering costs projections Tom Beecher (Oct 15)
- Re: transit and peering costs projections Dave Taht (Oct 15)
- Re: transit and peering costs projections Matthew Petach (Oct 15)
- Re: transit and peering costs projections Michael Thomas (Oct 16)
- Re: transit and peering costs projections Tim Burke (Oct 14)
- Re: transit and peering costs projections Tim Burke (Oct 15)
- Re: [LibreQoS] transit and peering costs projections Tim Burke (Oct 15)