Re: Do ISP's collect and analyze traffic of users?

[Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net>]

> On May 16, 2023, at 2:57 PM, Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote:
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> On 5/16/23 7:35 AM, Livingood, Jason via NANOG wrote:
> > +1 to what Josh writes below. I would also differentiate between mobile networks (service provisioned to individual 
> > devices & often carrier s/w on the device) and wireline networks (home devices behind a router/gateway/NAT).
> >  
> > I just don't think sale of data is a business for wireline ISPs. If it were - given most companies are public - 
> > you'd see it in SEC 10K filings and on earnings calls. Indeed, they'd be required to talk about it with investors if 
> > it was a material revenue stream. I see none of that. Rather, the focus is on subscription revenue. If you want to 
> > know about data monetization - focus on services you don't pay for...
> Why would there be a difference between wireless and wired? 

If you purchase MVNO from someone, those providers may do something else.  I think it’s also a bit interesting because 
some providers previously attempted to monetize this data, either through DNS wildcarding vs NXDOMAIN.  If it’s just 
generic “someone asked for this name” vs “this CIDR or IP requested data”.

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/03/11/1813226/crowdsourcing-confirms-websites-inaccessible-on-comcast

A reminder that what’s old is new again on the internet, so I’m sure we’ll see things come back around, bad ideas 
continue to come up with revenue ideas.

- Jared