Re: Increasing problems with geolocation/IPv4 access

[Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com>]

Every block I've gotten I just went through TheBrothersWisp geo location
page and just had them fix their information.  This includes virgin and
re-issued blocks from ARIN.

I've had a couple of random issues like Hulu thinking I'm a VPN, PSN
blocking a /24 because a /32 failed his password too many times, and
various streaming issues of which I tell customers to complain to the
streaming provider because all of the other ones work.

On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:32 PM Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net> wrote:

> I’ve been seeing an increasing problem with IP space not having the
> ability to be used due to the behaviors of either geolocation or worse,
> people blocking IP space after it’s been in-use for a period of time.
>
> Before I go back to someone at ARIN and say “your shiny unused 4.10 IP
> space” is non-functional and am at a place where I need to
> start/restart/respawn the timer, I have a few questions for people:
>
> 1) Do you see 23.138.114.0/24 in any feeds from a security provider that
> say it can/should be blocked?  If so, I’d love to hear from you to track
> this down.  Over the new year we had some local schools start to block this
> IP space.
>
> 2) many companies have geolocation feeds and services that exist and pull
> in data.  The reputable people are easy to find, there are those that are
> problematic from time-to-time (I had a few customers leave Sling due to the
> issues with that service).
>
> 3) Have you had similar issues?  How are you chasing all the issues?
> We’ve seen things from everything works except uploading check images to
> banks, to other financial service companies block the space our customers
> are in.  If we move them to another range this solves the problem.
>
> 4) We do IPv6, these places aren’t IPv6 modern at all, so that’s no help.
>
> 5) IRR+geofeed are published of course.  I’m thinking that it might be
> worthwhile that IP space have published placeholders when it’s well
> understood, eg: ARIN 4.9 space, I can predict what our next allocation
> would be, it would be great to have it be pre-warmed.
>
> I’ve only seen a few complaints against all our IP space over time, so I
> don’t think there’s anything malicious coming from the IP space to justify
> it, but it’s also possible they didn’t make it through.
>
> If you’re with the FKA Savvis side, can you also ping me, I’d like to see
> if you can reach out to our most recent complaint source to see if we can
> find who is publishing this.  Same if you’re with Merit or the Michigan
> Statewide Educational Network - your teachers stopped being able to post to
> powerschool for their students over the new year break.  They’ve fed it up
> to their tech people towards the ISD.  Details available off-list.
>
> Any insights are welcome, and as I said, I’d like to understand where the
> source list is as it starts out working then gradually breaks, so someone
> is publishing things and they are going out further.
>
> - Jared