Re: Outside plant - prewire customer demarc preference

[Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com>]

I think an important point for pre-wire and residential real estate
developers to consider is also the conflicting needs of keeping things
"neat and tidy" and last mile CPE location vs wifi coverage.

Your typical new build residential construction will have something like
this in it for telecom purposes:

https://imgur.com/RDMn6px

Or like this:

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F65wgbfel14m91.jpg

And then people install their ISP CPE in it and an 802.11ac (or ax) 2x2 or
3x3 router, often this is the same device, and wonder why their performance
is bad because the wifi AP happens to be **inside a box with a metal door
on it**.

Or the ISP tech knows better and tells people that their wifi coverage will
be terrible with the CPE inside of the box, so some sort of hack-job is
necessary to get power and ethernet to the location where the dual-band AP
can be located for optimal whole-home coverage.

Some of these now are all plastic and don't block as much 5 GHz signal, so
it's not quite as bad...





On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 7:46 PM Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com> wrote:

> You've misunderstood the goal.
>
> The intent is not to protect the fiber, but to make it easier for the
> field tech installing new service in a neat way through finished
> construction and concealled raceways, without cutting sheetrock or
> stapling exposed cabling across walls.
>
> Trying to prevent the next "bad fiber install" set of pictures.
>
> U.S. NEC does not require any mechanical protection for fiber cables.  You
> can run "bare" fiber cables through most residential spaces (with a few
> exceptions for jacket material, i.e. direct burial cable not allowed
> inside habital spaces).  Building codes may vary in other countries.
>
> On the other hand, do some searches for "bad fiber install" for many
> examples of fiber installers stapling fiber around the outside of houses
> or zip-tied to gas pipes.
>
>
>
> On Tue, 5 Dec 2023, Martin Hannigan wrote:
> > Looks like over priced residential inner duct to me. Sheet rock
> accomplishes
> > pretty much the same thing. I want reliable home Internet too, but it’s
> not
> > a CO. I’d install a PVC sleeve on the OSP to ISP transition. The risk of
> > outage isn’t going to materially move one way or the other as far as I
> can
> > tell.