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Re: Hawaiian ILEC infrastructure and fire
From: Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net>
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 14:05:30 -0400
On Aug 17, 2023, at 1:55 PM, TJ Trout <tj () pcguys us> wrote: I'm familiar with the island, it's it's puzzling that the major 3 cell carriers would accept a single point of failure like that, you would think they had microwave backup at minimum. Maybe it was a generator issue.
It’s common for a lot of cell backhaul to be on poles because it’s seen as cheap and easy to repair, except when you have a lot of failures at once, and I’m guessing replacement poles require a bit more effort to get there like everything else. I’m reminded of the fiber routes in/out of Madrid where they are all (largely) on a single route. There is a diverse route but it’s $$$ and some providers don’t want to pay for it. There’s a number of towns in the US that don’t even have any fiber connectivity at all, the voice/data come in via licensed links. It’s also common that something is missed or gets groomed off a diverse path without your knowledge. Seen this many times. - Jared
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- Re: Hawaiian ILEC infrastructure and fire scott via NANOG (Aug 17)
- Re: Hawaiian ILEC infrastructure and fire scott via NANOG (Aug 17)
- Re: Hawaiian ILEC infrastructure and fire Michael Thomas (Aug 17)
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- Re: Hawaiian ILEC infrastructure and fire scott via NANOG (Aug 15)
- Re: Hawaiian ILEC infrastructure and fire Ilissa Miller (Aug 17)
- Re: Hawaiian ILEC infrastructure and fire Mark Tinka (Aug 10)
- Re: Hawaiian ILEC infrastructure and fire Eric Kuhnke (Aug 17)
- Re: Hawaiian ILEC infrastructure and fire Jay R. Ashworth (Aug 16)
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- Re: Hawaiian ILEC infrastructure and fire Eric Kuhnke (Aug 16)
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