Re: Hawaiian ILEC infrastructure and fire

[Aaron1 <aaron1 () gvtc com>]

“Big, undersea, mpls network”.  Doesn’t get much cooler than that ;)

Aaron

> On Aug 16, 2023, at 9:51 PM, scott via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:
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> > On 8/17/23 2:03 AM, John Levine wrote:
> > According to Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com>:
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> > > It's my understanding that the Hawaiian ILEC is now owned by Cincinnati
> > > Bell, which is also a unique historical artifact, as it was its own
> > > independent corporation/operating entity in the region of Cincinnati during
> > > the era of the pre-1984 Bell system.
> > Not that unique, SNET was also a Bell affiliate in most of Connecticut.
> > Hawaiian Tel has a very painful history. It was independent until
> > 1967, then bought by GTE, then merged into Verizon along with the rest
> > of GTE in 2000, then sold to a hedge fund in 2004 which knew nothing
> > about telephony and ran it into bankruptcy, then an independent public
> > company from 2010 to 2017, when it was bought by Cincinnati Bell,
> > which in turn was bought in 2021 by Australian conglomerate Macquarie.
>
> Yep, that's it.  And the hedge fund (The Carlyle Group) thing was a complete disaster.  I was here for all that.  
> Fugly is all I can say.
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> > Running phone systems on islands is very expensive. There's only
> > 160,000 people on Maui, about the same as Salinas CA, but separated
> > from the rest of the world by a lot of water.
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> We have a lot of undersea fiber and it is all connected into one big MPLS network for the internet stuff.  There is 
> still SS7 stuff out there, too.  I am unfamiliar with that part.
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> scott