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Re: ARIN RPKI services terms/conditions - Change to Management of the Trust Anchor Locator for ARIN’s RPKI Service
From: Niels Bakker <niels=nanog () bakker net>
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 16:33:30 +0200
* jcurran () arin net (John Curran) [Tue 27 Sep 2022, 13:26 CEST]:
Yes: the intent is that an RP validator may ship and use the ARIN TAL by default. If that is not clear in the revised RPA, then the RPA agreement will updated again for clarity.
I feel like you're just gaslighting us at this point."You have passed through terms that are at least as protective of ARIN ... via browse-wrap, clickwrap [...] for which such third party is legally obligated to said terms."
So, no, software developers cannot ship and use the ARIN TAL by default, which means without having to interrupt an installation process with a question about Articles 5, 6, and 7 and Sections 8(a), 8(b), and 8(f) of the ARIN RPA.
Why can't ARIN just grant distribution and use for any purpose rights like the other RIRs?
-- Niels.
Current thread:
- ARIN RPKI services terms/conditions - Change to Management of the Trust Anchor Locator for ARIN’s RPKI Service John Curran (Sep 26)
- Re: ARIN RPKI services terms/conditions - Change to Management of the Trust Anchor Locator for ARIN’s RPKI Service Lukas Tribus (Sep 27)
- Re: ARIN RPKI services terms/conditions - Change to Management of the Trust Anchor Locator for ARIN’s RPKI Service John Curran (Sep 27)
- Re: ARIN RPKI services terms/conditions - Change to Management of the Trust Anchor Locator for ARIN’s RPKI Service Niels Bakker (Sep 27)
- Re: ARIN RPKI services terms/conditions - Change to Management of the Trust Anchor Locator for ARIN’s RPKI Service John Curran (Sep 27)
- ARIN RPA updated (again) to address TAL distribution (Re: ARIN RPKI services terms/conditions - Change to Management of the Trust Anchor Locator for ARIN’s RPKI Service) John Curran (Sep 29)
- Re: ARIN RPA updated (again) to address TAL distribution (Re: ARIN RPKI services terms/conditions - Change to Management of the Trust Anchor Locator for ARIN’s RPKI Service) Randy Bush (Sep 29)
- Re: ARIN RPA updated (again) to address TAL distribution (Re: ARIN RPKI services terms/conditions - Change to Management of the Trust Anchor Locator for ARINʼs RPKI Service) John Curran (Sep 29)
- Re: ARIN RPA updated (again) to address TAL distribution (Re: ARIN RPKI services terms/conditions - Change to Management of the Trust Anchor Locator for ARINʼs RPKI Service) Randy Bush (Sep 29)
- Re: ARIN RPA updated (again) to address TAL distribution (Re: ARIN RPKI services terms/conditions - Change to Management of the Trust Anchor Locator for ARINʼs RPKI Service) John Curran (Sep 29)
- Re: ARIN RPA updated (again) to address TAL distribution (Re: ARIN RPKI services terms/conditions - Change to Management of the Trust Anchor Locator for ARINʼs RPKI Service) Claudio Jeker (Sep 30)
- Re: ARIN RPA updated (again) to address TAL distribution (Re: ARIN RPKI services terms/conditions - Change to Management of the Trust Anchor Locator for ARINʼs RPKI Service) Randy Bush (Sep 30)
- Re: ARIN RPKI services terms/conditions - Change to Management of the Trust Anchor Locator for ARIN’s RPKI Service John Curran (Sep 27)
- Re: ARIN RPA updated (again) to address TAL distribution (Re: ARIN RPKI services terms/conditions - Change to Management of the Trust Anchor Locator for ARINʼs RPKI Service) John Curran (Sep 29)
- Re: ARIN RPKI services terms/conditions - Change to Management of the Trust Anchor Locator for ARIN’s RPKI Service Lukas Tribus (Sep 27)
- Re: ARIN RPKI services terms/conditions - Change to Management of the Trust Anchor Locator for ARIN’s RPKI Service William Herrin (Sep 27)