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RE: IPv6 "bloat" history
From: "Pascal Thubert \(pthubert\) via NANOG" <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2022 12:25:55 +0000
Fun, I had a parallel experience with NEMO that I implemented in IOS. But I mostly read the fate of MIP and NEMO as a lack of ask. Which is similar to the lack of desire today for the uplifts we made to IPv6 as a whole, and ND in particular. Anyway, RPL has a lot to do with what we learned there, including the abstract objective function that yields the metrics you are talking about, typically including things like ETX/ETX^2, RSSI and LQI. So yes, things that make sense eventually emerge. Keep safe. Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: William Allen Simpson <william.allen.simpson () gmail com> Sent: jeudi 31 mars 2022 14:10 To: nanog () nanog org Cc: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert () cisco com>; Masataka Ohta <mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp> Subject: Re: IPv6 "bloat" history On 3/31/22 7:44 AM, William Allen Simpson wrote:[heavy sigh] All of these things were well understood circa 1992-93. That's why the original Neighbor Discovery was entirely link state. ND link state announcements handled the hidden terminal problem.Also, it almost goes without saying that the original ND tried to handle the near-far problem. For example, where I'm talking to a far away AP streaming to the TV in front of me. At my home, I've had to wire the TV. Streaming to the AP, then the AP sending the same traffic over the same wireless band to the TV caused lots of drops and jitter. The near-far problem can be detected and solved. That's the reason for the Metric field. Furthermore, one of the messages in this thread mentioned trying to backport v6 features to v4. We've already been down that road. IPsec and MobileIP were developed for v6. After quitting the v6 project(s), I'd backported both of them to v4. Like v6, then they were assigned to others who ruined them. Committee-itis at its worst.
Current thread:
- Re: IPv6 "bloat" history, (continued)
- Re: IPv6 "bloat" history William Allen Simpson (Mar 22)
- Re: IPv6 "bloat" history Masataka Ohta (Mar 22)
- Re: IPv6 "bloat" history William Allen Simpson (Mar 25)
- Re: IPv6 "bloat" history William Allen Simpson (Mar 25)
- Re: IPv6 "bloat" history Masataka Ohta (Mar 28)
- Re: IPv6 "bloat" history Pascal Thubert (pthubert) via NANOG (Mar 28)
- Re: IPv6 "bloat" history Masataka Ohta (Mar 29)
- RE: IPv6 "bloat" history Pascal Thubert (pthubert) via NANOG (Mar 29)
- Re: IPv6 "bloat" history William Allen Simpson (Mar 31)
- Re: IPv6 "bloat" history William Allen Simpson (Mar 31)
- RE: IPv6 "bloat" history Pascal Thubert (pthubert) via NANOG (Mar 31)
- RE: IPv6 "bloat" history Pascal Thubert (pthubert) via NANOG (Mar 31)
- Re: IPv6 "bloat" history Masataka Ohta (Mar 31)
- RE: IPv6 "bloat" history Pascal Thubert (pthubert) via NANOG (Mar 31)