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Re: V6 still not supported
From: Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com>
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 17:14:01 -0700
On 3/22/22 4:58 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 5:36 PM Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote: On 3/22/22 5:45 AM, Randy Bush wrote: <snip> right would have had any better chance of being adopted? My experience with Cisco product managers at the time is that they couldn't give a shit about the technical aspects of an ipng. If their silicon forwarding couldn't handle it, they weren't interested unless customers wereSomewhere in this thread Randy sent a link to his ivtf screed^H^H^H^H^H^Hposition-paper. I think his point there was essentially: "Hey, vendors are coin operated, they build what people are asking for, if they are willing to pay AND if there are enough of them paying"
I detect no lies here. If we didn't build the right thing from the standpoint of ISP's, they would have told us what they wanted instead. The truth is they didn't want anything but what they had with v4, and running off the cliff was multiple quarterly earnings away so who cares. IPv6 is a classic case of a standards body pushing on string, technical merits be damned.
That people are relitigating something from 30 years ago that has been proven to not make any appreciable difference to deploability is part of the problem, not part of the solution. There is a salt mine's worth of saltiness. When the mobile guys came around and said they wanted to listen, they got the solution they could live with. That's all it took.
Mike
Current thread:
- Re: V6 still not supported, (continued)
- Re: V6 still not supported surfer (Mar 18)
- Re: V6 still not supported Michael Thomas (Mar 18)
- Re: V6 still not supported Masataka Ohta (Mar 20)
- Re: V6 still not supported John Curran (Mar 21)
- Re: V6 still not supported John Curran (Mar 21)
- Re: V6 still not supported Masataka Ohta (Mar 22)
- Re: V6 still not supported John Curran (Mar 22)
- Re: V6 still not supported Randy Bush (Mar 22)
- Re: V6 still not supported Michael Thomas (Mar 22)
- Re: V6 still not supported Christopher Morrow (Mar 22)
- Re: V6 still not supported Michael Thomas (Mar 22)
- Re: V6 still not supported George Michaelson (Mar 22)
- Re: V6 still not supported Joe Maimon (Mar 22)
- Re: V6 still not supported Michael Thomas (Mar 23)
- Re: V6 still not supported Joe Maimon (Mar 23)
- Re: V6 still not supported Michael Thomas (Mar 23)
- Re: V6 still not supported Joe Maimon (Mar 23)
- Re: V6 still not supported Michael Thomas (Mar 23)
- Re: V6 still not supported Joe Maimon (Mar 23)
- Re: V6 still not supported Owen DeLong via NANOG (Mar 23)
- Re: V6 still not supported Mark Delany (Mar 24)