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Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia?
From: Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe <lb () 6by7 net>
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 14:43:22 -0800
If sanctions were to come out after payment was received but before services are rendered, most providers would still not be able to provide the service. It’s also likely that banks in question can no longer forward funds from Russia, even if it were still possible to provide a service. I’m not a lawyer and this is where you need one, but doing business at all in Russia is going to become close to impossible. I’d be curious to know how much of Cogent’s decision was weighted by choosing not to connect Russian customers vs being legally forced to stop. A third possibility is that Cogent’s Russian entity (if they have one) or their US one is refusing to install new state-mandated surveillance hardware or follow certain procedures such as FSB/NSA letters, etc. -LB Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC CEO ben () 6by7 net "The only fully end-to-end encrypted global telecommunications company in the world.” ANNOUNCING: 6x7 GLOBAL MARITIME <https://alexmhoulton.wixsite.com/6x7networks> FCC License KJ6FJJ
On Mar 4, 2022, at 1:45 PM, David Conrad <drc () virtualized org> wrote: On Mar 4, 2022, at 1:14 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan () bryanfields net> wrote:On 3/4/22 3:52 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:I would argue they don't have much of a choice: "The economic sanctions put in place as a result of the invasion and the increasingly uncertain security situation make it impossible for Cogent to continue to provide you with service."But Tier 1's don't pay for peering.As someone who once had to have lawyers argue (at different times) with the US Dept. of Treasury for (a) providing open source software deemed a munition internationally and (b) updating certain globally accessible lists of names and numbers for Internet use at no charge (under a US government contract no less): you do not have to receive money to be viewed as providing a service. Regards, -drc
Current thread:
- Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia?, (continued)
- Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia? Brandon Svec via NANOG (Mar 04)
- Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia? Jorge Amodio (Mar 04)
- Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia? Rubens Kuhl (Mar 04)
- Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia? Martin Hannigan (Mar 04)
- Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia? Bryan Fields (Mar 04)
- Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia? Owen DeLong via NANOG (Mar 04)
- Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia? Nicole H. (Mar 07)
- Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia? Tom Beecher (Mar 07)
- Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia? Masataka Ohta (Mar 07)
- Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia? Bryan Fields (Mar 04)
- Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia? David Conrad (Mar 04)
- Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia? Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe (Mar 04)
- Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia? William Herrin (Mar 04)
- Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia? Rubens Kuhl (Mar 04)
- Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia? Tom Beecher (Mar 04)
- Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia? Michael Thomas (Mar 04)
- Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia? Aaron Wendel (Mar 04)
- Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia? Martin Hannigan (Mar 11)
- Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia? Masataka Ohta (Mar 04)