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Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers
From: "Livingood, Jason via NANOG" <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2022 15:20:12 +0000
A related observation – years ago we gave cable modem bootfiles to a group of customers that had no rate shaping according to their subscription and compared that to existing customers (with an academic researcher). The experiment group did not know of the change, so it could not influence their behavior. We observed that peak demand generally hit a plateau that was well below available capacity & this was driven by existing applications & associated user behavior. There’s obviously a chicken-or-egg problem with capacity & apps to use that capacity, but most ISPs raise end user speeds at least annually and try to stay ahead of increases in peak demand. JL From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+jason_livingood=cable.comcast.com () nanog org> on behalf of Jim Troutman <jamesltroutman () gmail com> Date: Monday, June 6, 2022 at 19:29 To: Tony Wicks <tony () wicks co nz> Cc: "nanog () nanog org" <nanog () nanog org> Subject: Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Some usage data: On a rural FTTX XGS-PON network with primarily 1Gig symmetric customers, I see about 1.5mbit/customer average inbound across 7 days, peaks at about 10mbit/customer, with 1 minute polling. Zero congestion in middle mile, transit or peering.
Current thread:
- RE: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers, (continued)
- RE: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Tony Wicks (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Dave Taht (Jun 06)
- RE: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Tony Wicks (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Masataka Ohta (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Michael Thomas (Jun 06)
- RE: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Tony Wicks (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Michael Thomas (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Mike Hammett (Jun 07)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Jim Troutman (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Michael Thomas (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Livingood, Jason via NANOG (Jun 07)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Dave Taht (Jun 07)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Livingood, Jason via NANOG (Jun 07)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Dave Taht (Jun 07)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers David Conrad (Jun 07)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Masataka Ohta (Jun 08)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Mike Hammett (Jun 07)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Denis Fondras (Jun 07)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Dave Taht (Jun 07)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Andrew Odlyzko via NANOG (Jun 07)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers J. Hellenthal via NANOG (Jun 07)