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Re: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements
From: Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa>
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2022 15:40:50 +0200
On 6/17/22 14:47, Saku Ytti wrote:
I can't pinpoint HMC as a bad solution, yes we've had our share of HMC issues, but we've also on JNPR and some other vendors previously replaced all linecards due to memory issues, before stacked DRAMs were a thing, memories are notoriously fragile. I can pinpoint HMC as a huge risk due to no manufacturer :). The memory issues are exacerbated by needing to reload the whole linecard when one memory has issues, JNPR has now delivered on newer images fixes where you can reduce both the collateral damage and downtime by reloading individual PFEs (and connected memories). I do think HMC was a solid engineering choice, and I am a bit annoyed that it lost to HBM instead of co-existing with little different optimization points. But that doesn't excuse the situation.
At the rate we are going, perhaps running Apple's M-chips for routers (to the extent possible) is not entirely unthinkable :-).
Mark.
Current thread:
- Re: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements, (continued)
- Re: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements Martijn Schmidt via NANOG (Jun 14)
- Re: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements Eric Kuhnke (Jun 14)
- Re: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements Saku Ytti (Jun 14)
- Re: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements Brian (Jun 14)
- Re: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements Eric Kuhnke (Jun 14)
- Re: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements Saku Ytti (Jun 14)
- Re: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements Raymond Burkholder (Jun 14)
- Re: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements Saku Ytti (Jun 14)
- Re: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements Tom Beecher (Jun 17)
- Re: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements Saku Ytti (Jun 17)
- Re: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements Mark Tinka (Jun 18)
- Re: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements Raymond Burkholder (Jun 14)
- Re: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements JASON BOTHE via NANOG (Jun 14)
- Re: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements Mark Tinka (Jun 14)
- RE: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements Adam Thompson (Jun 14)
- Re: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements Matthew Petach (Jun 14)
- RE: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements Tony Wicks (Jun 14)
- Re: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements John Gilmore (Jun 14)
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- RE: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements Shawn L via NANOG (Jun 14)
- Re: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements Jared Mauch (Jun 14)
- Re: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements Dave Taht (Jun 14)
- Re: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements John Gilmore (Jun 14)