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Re: home router battery backup


From: Ahmed elBornou <amaged () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 14:37:33 -0800

Do we know if there are common reasons why these power outages are on the
rise across different states and if this is expected to continue ?

Ahmed

On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 11:43 AM Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote:


On 1/12/22 11:25 AM, Fred Baker wrote:

On Jan 12, 2022, at 10:37 AM, Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG <
nanog () nanog org> wrote:

On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 10:18 AM Andy Ringsmuth <andy () andyring com>
wrote:
Given that most people barely even know what their home router is, I
suspect the percentage would be somewhere south of 1 percent. Outside of my
home, I honestly cannot recall EVER seeing someone’s home using a battery
backup for their internet infrastructure.

Same here.  The only people I've seen that have battery backups for
their home routers are fellow geeks.  I even bought one and shipped it to
my ~70-year-old mother...and she just doesn't want to install it.  "Too
complicated".

I personally do, but of course I (and probably everyone on this list)
am by no means representative of the population at large in this particular
area.

Same.  My home office has 3 Cyberpower 2500 VA double-conversion UPS
units backed by Champion transfer switches.  Power goes out, and ~45
seconds later I'm running on generator power.
My local ISP runs out of power well before I do.  Thankfully there's
Starlink.

Short of an asteroid hitting my office, it's highly unlikely I'll ever
be offline. ;)
In my case (California, home of SCE and PG&E), we have been notified by
our electrical grid operators that power can go down at any time, for any
reason, and any duration. I have just moved, so I am speaking in a
historical context and future plans, but we have solar electricity as well
and have a battery in the home that in effect backs up part of the house.
We don't back up the Internet service, because frankly if power is down in
the grid I'm not sure my favorite router is all that important, in addition
to the considerations already mentioned. But power can and does go down -
even without asteroids.

We just installed a battery too, but it will probably only last ~1 day
and much less than that in winter. We're in the process of looking at a
generator that interfaces directly with the inverter so that it handles
the grid, the battery, the solar and the generator along with the
transfer switch. It's gone from being the occasional nuisance in the
winter to all year long these days. Our power outage over the holidays
lasted 12 days. This isn't just a rural problem anymore in California,
it's a pretty much everywhere problem now.

Mike



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