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Re: What do you think about this airline vs 5G brouhaha?


From: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 15:57:24 -0500

Jay, one thing you’re missing is that a maximum of 2 (and almost always
1) radar altimeter will be in use per airfield, as one aircraft will be
landing at a time.

I believe that Lady Benjamin may have conflated the radar altimeter on
aircraft with the instrument landing system transmitters.

On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 3:52 PM Jay Hennigan <jay () west net> wrote:

On 1/19/22 01:53, Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE wrote:
Jay, one thing you’re missing is that a maximum of 2 (and almost always
1) radar altimeter will be in use per airfield, as one aircraft will be
landing at a time.

Really? I was under the impression that radar altimeters were pretty
much always active during flight. If not, what triggers the "PULL UP -
TERRAIN" audible warnings that are often heard on CVR recordings just
before an airplane flies into cumulo-granite weather (mountains) miles
from an airport?

If in fact they are only used for IFR approach, is there a lockout to
ensure that the radar is only active on approach? If pilots forget to
turn them off after landing, does the radar transmitter automatically
shut itself off?

Apparently some old gear has trouble with even a 500MHz guard band,
which I also find astonishingly bad for any time, but a lot of aviation
tech is truly from another century.

This is absolutely horrible receiver design on equipment critical to
aviation safety and it's surprising that tighter specs weren't enforced.
That adjacent spectrum hasn't exactly been silent until now. It's been
in use for decades going way back to Bell System TD-2 microwave that at
one point criss-crossed the country.

They also have main lobes approx 80* wide so they still function when
the plane is in 40* of bank.

That makes sense.

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Jay Hennigan - jay () west net
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