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Re: cogent - Sales practices


From: Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2022 13:05:10 -0700

I have a morbid curiosity about what the CRM database looks like inside
Cogent, for the stale/cold leads that get passed on to a new junior sales
rep every six months.

The amount of peoples' names/email addresses/phone numbers in there must be
stupendous.

All of this can probably serve as a useful training tool for smaller/mid
sized ISPs with their own outbound sales staff on how not to treat the
potential customers.


On Fri, 5 Aug 2022 at 13:21, Dennis Burgess <dmburgess () linktechs net> wrote:

So we just got an email from cogent, we have told them time and time again
to stop calling and stop emailing.  We tell them are good on bandwidth and
we don’t need any of their services.. They then sent us a e-mail stating
that they saw us coming though one of their customers networks from us, and
figured we would want to buy direct instead of going though one of their
customers. Yes COGENT stated this; well at least one of their sales reps.
Sounds underhanded, shady, and unethical to me.    Just figured I would
post about it; see if I am making a mountain out of a mole hill 😊



Here is the e-mail:



*"Hey (redacted) ,*

*Maybe there is a misunderstanding. (ISP’s name removed) is a cogent
customer who we provide upstream to.*

*My initial inquiry was to see if it makes sense for Link Technologies to
be utilizing our network instead of through (ISP’s name removed). That way
we could be a direct network for you.*

*Would that be at all something that interests you?*



*Eric Gogerty | Global Account Manager | AS 174*

*Cogent Communications | Minneapolis, MN (United States Of America)|
www.cogentco.com <http://www.cogentco.com>*

*Contact: 612-217-5506| email: egogerty () cogentco com
<egogerty () cogentco com>*

*The Internet, Unleashed!"*









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*Dennis Burgess*


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