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Re: [External] Re: Google Abuse
From: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2022 12:19:54 -0400
some might conclude that "T-Mobile filters links to right-leaning news outlets.
That conclusion, based on the methodology described, would be wrong, and that should be called out. On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 12:09 PM Hunter Fuller <hf0002+nanog () uah edu> wrote:
Sure, that's why I said that in my third paragraph. But once we know that they do, in fact, filter messages, we can understand why it might *seem* like they filter based on political content. For example, if a left-leaning news outlet uses bit.ly URLs, and a right-leaning one uses goo.gl URLs, and T-Mo filters all goo.gl URLs, some might conclude that "T-Mobile filters links to right-leaning news outlets." -- Hunter Fuller (they) Router Jockey VBH M-1C +1 256 824 5331 Office of Information Technology The University of Alabama in Huntsville Network Engineering On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 11:06 AM Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote:Spam filtering is clearly not the accusation that was laid out. On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 11:48 AM Hunter Fuller <hf0002+nanog () uah edu>wrote:I wouldn't call it a serious claim. By their own admission T-Mobile filters messages based on content.https://community.t-mobile.com/accounts-services-4/can-t-send-receive-texts-that-contain-goo-gl-7776Now, there is no indication I'm aware of, that it is political in nature. But they do, factually, throw away messages based on their content. -- Hunter Fuller (they) Router Jockey VBH M-1C +1 256 824 5331 Office of Information Technology The University of Alabama in Huntsville Network Engineering On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 10:46 AM Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>wrote:It's a pretty serious claim to say that cell providers wereselectively not delivering messages based on content.Unless you have some more concrete evidence beyond "I sent a fewtexts" , this list is no place for such things, nor the insinuation of political agendas.On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 10:54 AM Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr () 757 org>wrote:They may tell you they are not but there is no doubt in my mindthey are andif they got caught their response would be “Oopsie, my bad”. -richeyDuring Covid hysteria cellular carriers were definitly scrubbing text messages that contained things against whatever the agenda was. There was no errors from the cellular carriers that the messagedidn't gothrough, it just never arrived to the destination. Tested it firsthand,T-Mobile to Verizon, T-Mobile to AT&T and vice versa. Payload waslinks toa few websites that weren't popular with the left, like that DoctorRobertMalone guy. These were not using URL shorteners that are sometimes considered spam. - Ethan
Current thread:
- Re: Google Abuse, (continued)
- Re: Google Abuse Jon Lewis (Aug 16)
- Re: Google Abuse Mark Seiden (Aug 16)
- Re: Google Abuse richey goldberg (Aug 16)
- Re: Google Abuse Peter Beckman (Aug 16)
- Re: Google Abuse Mel Beckman (Aug 16)
- Re: Google Abuse Ethan O'Toole (Aug 17)
- Re: Google Abuse Tom Beecher (Aug 17)
- Re: [External] Re: Google Abuse Hunter Fuller via NANOG (Aug 17)
- Re: [External] Re: Google Abuse Tom Beecher (Aug 17)
- Re: [External] Re: Google Abuse Hunter Fuller via NANOG (Aug 17)
- Re: [External] Re: Google Abuse Tom Beecher (Aug 17)
- Re: [External] Re: Google Abuse jkinney23--- via NANOG (Aug 18)
- Re: Google Abuse Mark Seiden (Aug 16)
- Re: Google Abuse Jon Lewis (Aug 16)