Re: Copper Termination Blocks

[Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>]

Marty knows a thing or two about the history and current state of affairs
in this world.... :)

Pretty much all of the major LECs have set the goal of full copper
retirement. But that is a long way away.


On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 8:58 PM Shane Ronan <shane () ronan-online com> wrote:

> I think you'd be very surprised if you walked into the central offices of
> MANY of the large LECs.
>
> The majority of the wire frames are gone, replaced with fiber, even where
> the service is delivered as copper to the end user, it's usually served
> from something fiber fed much closer to the end user.
>
> I can tell you that one MAJOR LEC has a major push going on to retire ALL
> copper.
>
> Shane
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 6:54 PM Martin Hannigan <hannigan () gmail com>
> wrote:
>
> > Its not ancient. While cooper based products are slowly fading they still
> > matter. Im using 66 blocks to accommodate gauge/voltage for dial tone in
> > all facilities.  Lots of OOB still happens via copper dial tone or DSL.
> > Show me one LEC that has torn down their wire frame?
> >
> > We bought new.  Im seeing this product on the intertubes new at $18 per
> > block. We didn’t mount distribution from LEC in rack. Instead we placed the
> > standard 5/8’s plywood backboard and mounted there. We transition to a 110
> > block in a rack over ladder tray via ABAM cable to deliver to the back of a
> > 110  block and patch from front. Not perfect, but cost effective, easy to
> > manage and simple. It works.
> >
> > Warm regards,
> >
> > -M<
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 16:14 Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:
> >
> > > I know I'm discussing what some consider ancient technology. I counter
> > > that it meets or exceeds the needs of many, many people.
> > >
> > > Currently, we use 100-pr Telect-style termination blocks. They don't
> > > offer much in terms of ease of use for testing and don't organize well on a
> > > 19" or 23" rack.
> > >
> > > I was recommended to look at Krone blocks. They look just great. Easy to
> > > break into for testing with their "look both ways" plug as well as their
> > > preterminated blocks looked much easier to rack-mount.
> > >
> > > Well, Krone was bought by ADC. ADC was bought by Tyco Electronics. TE
> > > was bought by Commscope. Commscope discontinued everything I found
> > > interesting with no replacements.
> > >
> > >
> > > Some of the stuff is on eBay (even NIB), some not.
> > >
> > > Any recommendations for places to get old telco blocks, testers, mounts,
> > > etc.?
> > >
> > > Any recommendations for alternatives that are easier to source?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----
> > > Mike Hammett
> > > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > > http://www.ics-il.com
> > >
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