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Re: Network visibility


From: Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 16:38:39 +0000

I’ve used many commercial NMS platforms. I’ve yet to find one that doesn’t work “out of the box”. Unless by “out of the 
box” you mean “clairvoyantly configured”. 

Please identify the ones you think fail your test. 

-mel via cell

On Oct 20, 2021, at 9:18 AM, Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa> wrote:



On 10/20/21 18:08, Mel Beckman wrote:

Mark,

Before 1983, the ARPANET wasn’t an internet, let alone The Internet. Each ARPANET connection required a 
host-specific interface (the “IMP”) and simplex Network Control Protocol (NCP). NCP used users' email addresses, and 
routing had to be specified in advance within each NCP message.

I do know all of this, mate... I was just being dramatically facetious from my first response to the OP.

My point being that considering how long TCP/IP has been around, the best monitoring we have gotten, even today, 
doesn't work out-of-the-box. So a single solution is likely impractical, even with the best of intentions, and none 
of the massaging.


Even so, the Internet as a platform open to anyone didn’t start until 1992. I know you joined late, in 1999, so you 
probably missed out on this history. :)

1995, actually. But that's not important...

Mark.

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