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Re: DNS pulling BGP routes?
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 15:00:02 -0700
On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 1:47 PM Matthew Petach <mpetach () netflight com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 1:17 PM William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:Since peering customers can only reach transit customers, it follows that one of the customers in the equation is a fully-paid transit customer. That fully paid customer's service is degraded or denied unless the peering customer also pays. Hence the conflict of interest.Customer A is full transit paying customer. in case 2, Customer B is a paid peering customer. Can you explain what it is I'm missing here? ^_^;
The part where customer A is paying for a connection to "the Internet" at some data rate, which includes the network run by customer B. REGARDLESS of whether B pays the same service provider. If the service rendered to A is changed by B's payment (or lack), that's a conflict of interest. To remove the conflict of interest, you either have to fiddle the definition of what customer A is buying, turning it into something that would not be obvious to an ordinary person or you have or you have to allow B to engage in settlement free peering if they want to. Or, counterintuitively, pay your own transit provider enough to handle any capacity A and B together care to consume. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin bill () herrin us https://bill.herrin.us/
Current thread:
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes?, (continued)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Jay Hennigan (Oct 16)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Masataka Ohta (Oct 17)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? niels=nanog (Oct 17)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Baldur Norddahl (Oct 17)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Masataka Ohta (Oct 18)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Baldur Norddahl (Oct 18)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? William Herrin (Oct 18)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Matthew Petach (Oct 18)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? William Herrin (Oct 18)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Matthew Petach (Oct 18)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? William Herrin (Oct 18)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Masataka Ohta (Oct 20)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Matthew Petach (Oct 16)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Masataka Ohta (Oct 17)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Sabri Berisha (Oct 17)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Masataka Ohta (Oct 18)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Sabri Berisha (Oct 18)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Michael Thomas (Oct 18)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Mike Hammett (Oct 18)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Sabri Berisha (Oct 18)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Michael Thomas (Oct 18)