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Re: DNS pulling BGP routes?
From: Masataka Ohta <mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp>
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 22:44:54 +0900
Mark Tinka wrote:
Remember that CDN providers are not neutral at all.Well, the purpose of a network is whatever its proprietor deems it to be, and makes no false advertising about it.
What?
A private enterprise network that carries a company's internal traffic - which may or may not interface with an external network that is interested in some or all of that traffic - would, in your eyes, be classified as not neutral, because it chooses not to use its network to provide global IP Transit?
Unless they directly reach their end users, yes, of course. The fundamental problem of networking is the last mile problem that access costs alot more than backbone. As such, long distance carriers may peer with access providers only when they are neutral or pay some of there revenue share to access providers.
In my mind, the word "transit" refers to carriage between two non-homogeneous points. So network A (customer) will talk to network C (content) via my network B (transit). If the traffic originates either from A or C, BUT terminates/ends inside of B, I do not consider that transit.
With your definition, as CDN providers with their own backbone are not "transit", they can not request access providers (and, ultimately, end users) peering without paying some as compensation for access network cost. Otherwise, CDN providers with their own backbone are free riders ignoring access costs. Masataka Ohta
Current thread:
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes?, (continued)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Matthew Petach (Oct 11)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Masataka Ohta (Oct 12)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Matthew Petach (Oct 12)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Masataka Ohta (Oct 13)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Tom Beecher (Oct 13)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Masataka Ohta (Oct 13)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Tom Beecher (Oct 13)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Christopher Morrow (Oct 13)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Masataka Ohta (Oct 13)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Mark Tinka (Oct 13)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Masataka Ohta (Oct 16)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Mark Tinka (Oct 17)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Masataka Ohta (Oct 18)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Mark Tinka (Oct 18)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Masataka Ohta (Oct 18)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Mark Tinka (Oct 18)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Masataka Ohta (Oct 18)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Tom Beecher (Oct 18)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Jay Hennigan (Oct 13)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? Masataka Ohta (Oct 16)
- Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? niels=nanog (Oct 16)