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Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections)
From: Etienne-Victor Depasquale <edepa () ieee org>
Date: Sun, 30 May 2021 08:50:13 +0200
Sean, I can send you tens (10s) of papers on research into QoE for streaming media; some of them form the basis of my own current research, i.e. I'm depending on their validity for my own work to be valid. At this moment in time, I'm unable to digest it for you as it's been a while since I read it. I can offer to: (a) (privately) send the above-mentioned collection of papers, (b) offer you a digest later this year, most likely around September, and (c) point out one core point, which is that there's a concept of "sustainable bandwidth" that's the determinant of good QoE. I concede that "sustainable bandwidth" needs explanation, which I can't accurately describe at the moment either. Let me know whether any of the above offers interests you. Cheers, Etienne On Sun, May 30, 2021 at 1:28 AM Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com> wrote:
I thought in the 1990s, we had moved beyond using average bps measurements for IP congestion collapse. During the peering battles, some ISPs used to claim average bps measurements showed no problems. But in reality there were massive packet drops, re-transmits and congestive collapse which didn't show up in simple average bps graphs. Have any academic researchers done work on what are the real-world minimum connection requirements for home-schooling, video teams applications, job interview video calls, and network background application noise? During the last year, I've been providing volunteer pandemic home schooling support for a few primary school teachers in a couple of different states. Its been tough for pupils on lifeline service (fixed or mobile), and some pupils were never reached. I found lifeline students on mobile (i.e. 3G speeds) had trouble using even audio-only group calls, and the exam proctoring apps often didn't work at all forcing those students to fail exams unnecessarily. In my experience, anecdotal data need some academic researchers, pupils with at least 5 mbps (real-world measurement) upstream connections at home didn't seem to have those problems, even though the average bps graph was less than 1 mbps.
-- Ing. Etienne-Victor Depasquale Assistant Lecturer Department of Communications & Computer Engineering Faculty of Information & Communication Technology University of Malta Web. https://www.um.edu.mt/profile/etiennedepasquale
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- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (May 30)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Bryan Fields (May 30)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (May 29)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Ethan O'Toole (May 29)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (May 28)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Dan Stralka (May 28)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Baldur Norddahl (May 29)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (May 29)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Andy Ringsmuth (May 29)
- Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Sean Donelan (May 29)
- Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Etienne-Victor Depasquale (May 29)
- Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Masataka Ohta (May 30)
- Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Mike Hammett (May 30)
- Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Josh Luthman (May 31)
- Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Fred Baker (May 31)
- Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Denys Fedoryshchenko (May 31)
- Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Eric Kuhnke (May 31)
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- Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Eric Kuhnke (May 30)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Baldur Norddahl (May 30)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (May 30)