Re: ARIN-NONAUTH IRR final retirement set for 31 March 2022

[John Curran <jcurran () arin net>]

Martin -

ARIN has already taken responsibility by making available authenticated IRR and PRKI services as sought by the 
community, and I concur that individual parties are also taking responsibility by placing their routing information in 
these and similar services.

ARIN will encourage such migration, but the responsibility ultimately lies with those with the data in the 
unauthenticated IRR system.

Thanks,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers

On 16 Mar 2021, at 8:36 AM, Martijn Schmidt <martijnschmidt () i3d net<mailto:martijnschmidt () i3d net>> wrote:

Hi John,

It seems that you are trying to abdicate responsibility, but at the end of the day those individual parties are placing 
information in "better" routing registries such as RPKI that you can leverage to clean up the "lesser" ARIN-NONAUTH 
routing registry. So those individuals are taking their responsibility, and I am wondering - when will ARIN start 
taking their cue?

Best regards,
Martijn

On 3/16/21 1:14 PM, John Curran wrote:
Job -

You suggest "ARIN can manage cleanup of a select few objects” but alas, responsibility for proper routing entry hygiene 
lies with the individual parties that have placed information in the routing registry.

Decisions on ARIN services are ultimately under the authority of the ARIN Board of Trustees, who are the elected 
representatives of the ARIN membership.   More information on the ARIN Board of Trustees may be found here - 
https://www.arin.net/about/welcome/board/

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers

On 16 Mar 2021, at 8:04 AM, Job Snijders <job () fastly com<mailto:job () fastly com>> wrote:

Dear John,

Thank you for extending the deadline with another 6 months. Obviously 6
months amidst a global pandamic would never be enough time. :-)

Both John Sweeting [1] and myself [2] assert there are tens of thousands
of objects for which the relationship between the object's existence and
the state of related routes in the BGP default-free zone routing are not
fully understood.

It appears ARIN has choosen to ignore a specific community suggestion:
please first prove ARIN can manage cleanup of a select few objects,
before proceeding to deprecate the entire ARIN-NONAUTH database.

I'm not convinced mere 'community outreach' is an appropriate and
substantive response to the anteriority of 'Legacy Holders' who might
depend on both ARIN's reverse DNS service and ARIN's (Non Authoritative)
IRR service.

I personally would like to see ARIN postpone any decision on whether to
sunset the ARIN-NONAUTH database in favor of first applying
community-recognised object clean-up mechanisms, and then based on the
'lessons learned' from such a cleanup process, inform future go/no-go
decisions.

Can you share with me what the process would be to appeal the decision
made here and how course can changed?

Kind regards,

Job

[1]: https://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-consult/2021-March/001241.html
[2]: https://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-consult/2021-March/001237.html

On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 11:03:56AM +0000, John Curran wrote:
NANOGers -
FYI - Outcome of the community consultation on the Future of ARIN’s Unauthenticated IRR.
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers

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From: ARIN <info () arin net<mailto:info () arin net><mailto:info () arin net>>
Subject: [ARIN-consult] ACSP Consultation 2021.1: Future of ARIN’s Unauthenticated IRR is now Closed
Date: 15 March 2021 at 4:27:04 PM EDT
To: <arin-consult () arin net<mailto:arin-consult () arin net><mailto:arin-consult () arin net>>

I would like to thank everyone who provided valuable feedback during this consultation on the future of ARIN’s 
unauthenticated IRR. Input provided by the community is a vital part of our planning processes at ARIN, and after 
reviewing responses to the consultation, we are making a few significant adjustments in our path forward.

One concern raised during the consultation was that six months was not enough time for organizations that currently 
depend on data in ARIN’s unauthenticated IRR to make changes to their systems. As a result, we will be extending the 
availability of ARIN’s non-authenticated IRR for an additional six months with final retirement set for 31 March 2022.

The second major suggestion was that ARIN conduct proactive engagement to notifying customers who currently use our 
unauthenticated IRR. We have already initiated this outreach, and for the next twelve months, we will continue this 
direct outreach to customers who have records in ARIN’s non-authenticated IRR to inform them of their options and 
provide necessary assistance.

We will also provide regular reminders and updates to our community and organizations making use of the outdated and 
non-authenticated IRR data stream so they can be ready for when we cease publishing the ARIN-NONAUTH data stream. These 
reminders leading up to the retirement of ARIN’s non-authenticated IRR will include statistics on the number of records 
remaining in that system and related routing coverage.

Thank you again to those who provided valuable feedback on this consultation.

Regards,

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers
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