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RE: New minimum speed for US broadband connections
From: "Chris Adams (IT)" <Chris.Adams () ung edu>
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2021 18:27:30 +0000
This short term mindset is part of the problem. I’ve seen projects around me using CAF funds that push DSLAMs further into the network to get users up to 100mbps, but they are already at their ceiling as soon as they are installed. I admire providers who invest beyond the short term into something that is future proof. 100mbps shouldn’t be the goal, it should be the baseline. It’s particularly troubling knowing how much federal tax money is subsidizing these installs that have no headroom on day 1. In my case, my neighbors get 25/1.5 on ADSL that loses sync half the time when it rains, partially in credit to the 30+ year old copper plant it runs on. Putting a DSLAM within 3000ft only fixes a small part of the problem. Starlink won’t have the capacity to fix all rural broadband, but It will be interesting to see whether it applies pressure to the incumbents, or if it stunts capital investment in less dense areas as users flee the decrepit service available. I am at least grateful that Auction 904 weighted and prioritized awards based on speeds delivered. Chris From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+chris.adams=ung.edu () nanog org> On Behalf Of james.cutler () consultant com Sent: Tuesday, June 1, 2021 2:14 PM To: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> Cc: nanog list <nanog () nanog org> Subject: Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections CAUTION: This email originated from outside the University of North Georgia. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. If you suspect this message is fraudulent, please forward to spam () ung edu<mailto:spam () ung edu?subject=%5BSPAM%20REPORT%5D> or contact the IT Service Desk at 706-864-1922. On Jun 1, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net<mailto:nanog () ics-il net>> wrote: "Why is 100/100 seen as problematic to the industry players?" In rural settings, it's low density, so you're spending a bunch of money with a low probability of getting any return. Also, a low probability that the customer cares. Of course, this is because the “industry” is driven short term profits and can not vision the eventual dispersion of remote workers begun in earnest about a year and which could result in longer term return on investment.
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- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mark Tinka (Jun 01)
- RE: New minimum speed for US broadband connections aaron1 (Jun 01)
- RE: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Shawn L via NANOG (Jun 01)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (Jun 01)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Christopher Morrow (Jun 01)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (Jun 01)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Raymond Burkholder (Jun 01)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mark Tinka (Jun 02)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections james.cutler () consultant com (Jun 01)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (Jun 01)
- RE: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Chris Adams (IT) (Jun 01)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mark Tinka (Jun 02)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mark Tinka (Jun 01)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mark Tinka (Jun 02)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Jim Troutman (Jun 01)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (Jun 01)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections scott (Jun 01)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (Jun 01)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections scott (Jun 01)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Valdis Klētnieks (Jun 01)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Christopher Morrow (Jun 01)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (Jun 01)