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Re: Do you care about "gray" failures? Can we (network academics) help? A 10-min survey
From: Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa>
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 14:56:27 +0200
On 7/8/21 14:29, Saku Ytti wrote:
Network experiences gray failures all the time, and I almost never care, unless a customer does. If there is a network which does not experience these, then it's likely due to lack of visibility rather than issues not existing. Fixing these can take months of working with vendors and attempts to remedy will usually cause planned or unplanned outages. So it rarely makes sense to try to fix as they usually impact a trivial amount of traffic. Networks also routinely mangle packets in-memory which are not visible to FCS check.
I was going to say the exact same thing. +1. It's all par for the course, which is why we get up everyday :-).I'm currently dealing with an issue that will forward a customer's traffic to/from one /24, but not the rest of their IPv4 space, including the larger allocation from which the /24 is born. It was a gray issue while the customer partially activated, and then caused us to care when they tried fully swing over.
Mark.
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