Re: gofundme Medical Expenses - Ed Hew

[Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>]

I personally have no issue with the OP, or the idea of recognizing the work
of those who have come before.

I just don't want to see this devolve into a pissing match that ends up
requiring a rule to be created about such things.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 1:31 PM Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org> wrote:

> Tom,
>
> I think it’s fair to defend good and decent ideas on NANOG.
>
> In my opinion, it’s a good and decent idea that we spend a tiny amount of
> bandwidth acknowledging Internet pioneers and helping them as they
> encounter unexpected adversity. Jim’s posting of Ed Hew’s GoFundMe is just
> such a good and decent idea. I think Jim for it.
>
> Not all of us are blessed with well-paying jobs and benefits at Fortune
> 500 companies. And health crises can strike any of us.
>
> There, but for the grace of God, go we all.
>
>   -mel
>
> On Jan 25, 2021, at 10:12 AM, Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote:
>
> Guys, let's maybe turn the temperature down a bit.
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 1:04 PM Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org> wrote:
>
> > Bill,
> >
> > So, we can only mention in this forum the actual death of Internet
> > pioneers, such as Mark Crispin, Jon Postel, and Jeanette Symons?
> >
> > What if the person’s health is tied to a major infrastructure component,
> > such as http://www.registry.ca? <http://www.registry.ca/?> No? Not a
> > valid “operational” case?
> >
> > Your position seems to be "let us nip this in sad news the bud, before it
> > spreads". Because, I guess, there are literally millions of selfless
> > Internet pioneers, and we don’t want NANOG to be flooded with their
> > memories, or at least their pleas for modest assistance as a token of
> > appreciation for their lifetime of contribution.
> >
> > “NANOG owes them nothing!”, you didn’t say, but I heard.
> >
> >  -mel
> >
> > On Jan 25, 2021, at 9:23 AM, William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 8:40 AM Jim Mercer <jim () reptiles org> wrote:
> >
> > unsure if this is allowed or not, but, here goes.
> >
> >
> > Hi Jim,
> >
> > This is a lie. If you weren't sure, you'd have asked if it was ok to
> > do the thing without actually doing the thing. That you went ahead and
> > did it says you were pretty sure it was against the rules and figured
> > you could get away with it. You may be right but the lie compounds the
> > offense.
> >
> > I'm sorry to hear about Ed. Nevertheless, a lot of us are getting on
> > in age and health and the Internet doesn't need another mailing list
> > about how sad it is to grow old.
> >
> > May I suggest: spend a line in your signature block on the off-topic
> > things you want folks on this group to know. And then attach it only
> > to messages which are on topic.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bill Herrin