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Re: DoD IP Space
From: Bryan Fields <Bryan () bryanfields net>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 16:08:34 -0500
On 1/20/21 12:52 PM, John Curran wrote:
On 20 Jan 2021, at 12:17 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan () bryanfields net<mailto:Bryan () bryanfields net>> wrote:AFAIK IANA and the RIR's cannot enforce use of IP space assignments on any network.<chuckle> While route hijacking isn't necessarily an ARIN issue, I will note that several US law enforcement agencies (FBI & NCIS Cybercrime units) are quite interested in such events and do investigate them looking for criminal activity. (See https://pc.nanog.org/static/published/meetings/NANOG77/2108/20191028_Elverson_Your_As_Is_v1.pdf for details.)
Can you ensure quoting is done properly? I don't want more confusion between what I wrote and the reply. Nowhere did I state this was used to be for criminal or less than above board use. As soon as an entity decides to engage in criminal activities we're beyond the question of what numbers they can run on their network. I can't think of a worse entity to hijack space from than the DOD. Very few other AS's have the ability to make it rain fire over a hijacker's NOC :-) My comment was in terms of what a private network can do inside their own network, or as part of a multi-entity network that is separate from the "Internet". The bigger question is, should you do this? The answer is no for a host of reasons, as networks rarely stay private. Even the GRX went through a big cleanup relating to this, and as of the last 6 years (maybe more) requires space used to be allocated via the RIR's and not RFC1918 space. IIRC they still allow private ASN's. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net
Current thread:
- Re: DoD IP Space, (continued)
- Re: DoD IP Space Sabri Berisha (Jan 23)
- Re: DoD IP Space Randy Bush (Jan 21)
- Re: DoD IP Space Randy Bush (Jan 21)
- Re: DoD IP Space Doug Barton (Jan 22)
- Re: DoD IP Space Dorn Hetzel (Jan 20)
- Re: DoD IP Space Bryan Fields (Jan 20)
- Re: DoD IP Space John Curran (Jan 20)
- Re: DoD IP Space Brandon Martin (Jan 20)
- Re: DoD IP Space John Curran (Jan 20)
- Re: DoD IP Space Eric Kuhnke (Jan 20)
- Re: DoD IP Space Bryan Fields (Jan 20)
- Re: DoD IP Space Eric Kuhnke (Jan 20)
- Re: DoD IP Space Sabri Berisha (Jan 20)
- Re: DoD IP Space Owen DeLong (Jan 20)
- Re: DoD IP Space borg (Jan 21)
- Re: DoD IP Space Clayton Zekelman (Jan 22)
- Re: DoD IP Space Izaac (Jan 22)