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Re: Hosting recommendations ... ?
From: Raymond Burkholder <ray () oneunified net>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 00:12:00 -0700
On 1/19/21 10:56 AM, Bryan Holloway wrote:
There is actually a happy medium. Spin up a large VM. Install Proxmox. But instead of spinning up heavy duty VM in KVM, or such, Proxmox knows how to spin up LXC containers. You get light performant segregation between applications without the duplication of kernel.On 1/19/21 6:33 PM, Brandon Martin wrote:On 1/19/21 11:44 AM, William Herrin wrote:It's worth pointing out that nested virtualization is a thing these days, and some providers might even support it! That means you could buy one large instance and sub-divide it yourself into multiple VMs if you want to.Cloud = you get virtual servers with virtual storage, generally adjustable to meet your needs. You manage the operating systems and storage within the virtual environment. You DO NOT manage the host operating systems or hypervisors.In practice, unless you need that flexibility to dynamically spin the VMs up and down with various specs AND don't want to or cannot use a provider's API for that, I'm not sure why you'd want to if you didn't have to for some crazy reason.I mean, I'm not exactly trying to render Pixar's latest movie ... just trying to push some bits around (light web-sites, some e-mail ...)
Of course, if you need to run some sort of windows thingy that WinHQ can't solve, then you have the ability to spin up a 'heavy' VM.
For native Linux apps, as I know how to do container networking directly, many times I just skip the ProxMox abstraction and run the LXC commands and IP commands directly.
Raymond Burkholder blog: https://blog.raymond.burkholder.net
Current thread:
- Re: Hosting recommendations ... ?, (continued)
- Re: Hosting recommendations ... ? William Herrin (Jan 19)
- Re: Hosting recommendations ... ? Tom Beecher (Jan 19)
- Re: Hosting recommendations ... ? Brandon Martin (Jan 19)
- Re: Hosting recommendations ... ? Ward Vandewege (Jan 19)
- Re: Hosting recommendations ... ? Brandon Martin (Jan 19)
- Re: Hosting recommendations ... ? Bryan Holloway (Jan 19)
- Re: Hosting recommendations ... ? Brandon Martin (Jan 19)
- Re: Hosting recommendations ... ? Matt Harris (Jan 19)
- RE: Hosting recommendations ... ? Keith Medcalf (Jan 19)
- Re: Hosting recommendations ... ? Jay R. Ashworth (Jan 19)
- Re: Hosting recommendations ... ? Raymond Burkholder (Jan 19)
- Re: Hosting recommendations ... ? Michael Thomas (Jan 19)