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Re: Parler
From: Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org>
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 20:52:49 +0000
You’ve described capitalism perfectly, and it works just as it should on the Internet, at least so far. Yes, the Internet has been a free market. But it won’t remain that way unless we resist censorship by a few wealthy companies. Parler, fortunately, has some backers who can foot the bill. -mel On Jan 10, 2021, at 12:40 PM, Matthew Petach <mpetach () netflight com> wrote: On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 12:29 PM Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org<mailto:mel () beckman org>> wrote: It’s gratifying to see the many talented engineers here working on a solution to the underlying problem: Censorship. Don’t confuse freedom of speech (which protects us from government censorship) from freedom of commerce, which is a uniquely American aspect of Internet design. As John Gilmore wisely said, “The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.” Let’s start helping the free market route around the censors! -mel I'm sorry, Mel The market hasn't been "free" for quite a long time. There's easy solutions to the problem--hiring really good engineers to write your own AWS-lookalike where you can host whatever content you want, hosted in buildings you've built on land you've bought. It's most definitely not free, though. I'm available to start immediately--but I charge $2M/year, plus expenses, including a full security detail to protect me from the types of people who are likely to use the platform once it's done. You're "free" to hire me--but I most definitely don't work for free. You're "free" to buy your own land to build a datacenter on; but it most definitely isn't available for free. You're "free" to buy electricity to run the servers you put in that datacenter you've built--but the electricity is most definitely not arriving for free. The part Gilmore missed is that the 'Net only routes around censorship if someone is willing to foot the bill. Matt
Current thread:
- Re: Parler, (continued)
- Re: Parler Ben Cannon (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler Bill Woodcock (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler Matthew Petach (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler William Herrin (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler Bryan Fields (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler Michael Thomas (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler Matthew Petach (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler Michael Thomas (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler Mel Beckman (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler Matthew Petach (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler Mel Beckman (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler bzs (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler Ben Cannon (Jan 11)
- Re: Parler Jay Hennigan (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler J. Hellenthal via NANOG (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler Jay R. Ashworth (Jan 13)
- Re: Parler Izaac (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler Michael Thomas (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler Izaac (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler Michael Thomas (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler Dan Hollis (Jan 10)