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Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses?
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 18:23:22 -0800
On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 4:47 PM Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote:
So aside from Afrinic, this is all being done on the gray market?
Hi Mike, No. The market is fully above board with policies written into the RIR operations to intentionally support its existence. In the ARIN region that's things like the "specified transfer" policy.
Wouldn't you expect that price to follow something like an exponential curve as available addresses become more and more scarce and unavailable for essentially any price?
Most likely, but it's a long curve and we're very, very early on it. Still lots of eyeballs using public IPv4 addresses who wouldn't be significantly inconvenienced if they had to share an IPv4 address with their neighbors. Eventually we'll reach a sharper part of the curve and suddenly: IPv6. Regards, Bill Herrin On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 4:47 PM Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote:
On 2/16/21 4:18 PM, Fred Baker wrote:You may find this article interesting: https://blog.apnic.net/2019/12/13/keep-calm-and-carry-on-the-status-of-ipv4-address-allocation/ <https://blog.apnic.net/2019/12/13/keep-calm-and-carry-on-the-status-of-ipv4-address-allocation/>So aside from Afrinic, this is all being done on the gray market? Wouldn't you expect that price to follow something like an exponential curve as available addresses become more and more scarce and unavailable for essentially any price? MikeSent from my iPadOn Feb 16, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote: Basically are there places that you can't get allocations? If so, what is happening? Mike
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- Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses? Rubens Kuhl (Feb 16)
- Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses? Fred Baker (Feb 16)
- Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses? Michael Thomas (Feb 16)
- Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses? Eric Kuhnke (Feb 16)
- Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses? William Herrin (Feb 16)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses? Mann, Jason via NANOG (Feb 16)
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