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Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts
From: Robert DeVita <radevita () mejeticks com>
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 13:30:50 +0000
What’s going on in Texas has nothing to do with power distribution. It has to do with ability to generate power. Robert DeVita Founder & CEO Mejeticks c. 469-441-8864 e. radevita () mejeticks com ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+radevita=mejeticks.com () nanog org> on behalf of Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 7:25:12 AM To: Rod Beck <rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com> Cc: nanog () nanog org <nanog () nanog org> Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts It's cheaper to build 2x, 3x, 4x the aerial plant than to build 1x the underground plant. The actual cost per foot is more like 10x difference, but there are right of way, maintenance, etc. costs to factor in as well. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <https:/app.bitdam.com/api/v1.0/links/rewrite_click/?rewrite_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZXdyaXRlX2lkIjoiNjAyYmM4N2I3MDg0ZDcyYzJkNjkxYjQ1IiwidXJsIjoiIiwib3JnYW5pemF0aW9uX2lkIjoxNzgxfQ.I6gtKpQtZNWLIl1Z6yxbF_rlPqm-At__90A9H6s-3Ho&url=http%3A//www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png] <https:/app.bitdam.com/api/v1.0/links/rewrite_click/?rewrite_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZXdyaXRlX2lkIjoiNjAyYmM4N2IyNTdlMjllOTk4ODdkMmI4IiwidXJsIjoiIiwib3JnYW5pemF0aW9uX2lkIjoxNzgxfQ.ATsg4HQYQEWxDoKPamHE70Iu8iO1dQW0ElB0mtbURTE&url=https%3A//www.facebook.com/ICSIL> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png] <https:/app.bitdam.com/api/v1.0/links/rewrite_click/?rewrite_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZXdyaXRlX2lkIjoiNjAyYmM4N2IzYTY4NzU3MjUxNWJhNGJhIiwidXJsIjoiIiwib3JnYW5pemF0aW9uX2lkIjoxNzgxfQ.MwIiyrYIGmO1oKz1Bu2wQ4PD2-EMEoHuJD_T_ai9Ns8&url=https%3A//plus.google.com/%2BIntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png] <https:/app.bitdam.com/api/v1.0/links/rewrite_click/?rewrite_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZXdyaXRlX2lkIjoiNjAyYmM4N2IzYTY4NzU3MjUxNWJhNGI4IiwidXJsIjoiIiwib3JnYW5pemF0aW9uX2lkIjoxNzgxfQ.y3nqDtao4sOn9v6WiiQuS476O84PjJ5hnWlRCuNb8JU&url=https%3A//www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png] <https:/app.bitdam.com/api/v1.0/links/rewrite_click/?rewrite_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZXdyaXRlX2lkIjoiNjAyYmM4N2IzYTY4NzU3MjUxNWJhNGI5IiwidXJsIjoiIiwib3JnYW5pemF0aW9uX2lkIjoxNzgxfQ.8_PxcSoQWF7-kH3xaiZwFTBLlwZTPrsKwKu7gOj-xZM&url=https%3A//twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <https:/app.bitdam.com/api/v1.0/links/rewrite_click/?rewrite_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZXdyaXRlX2lkIjoiNjAyYmM4N2I0NjA5OGE2NWU2MWVkM2RmIiwidXJsIjoiIiwib3JnYW5pemF0aW9uX2lkIjoxNzgxfQ.cPhD7d7YBkO-rBJoIpJ0sjSHQyoDX0Ija9J9TjlsBgs&url=http%3A//www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png] <https:/app.bitdam.com/api/v1.0/links/rewrite_click/?rewrite_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZXdyaXRlX2lkIjoiNjAyYmM4N2I0NjA5OGE2NWU2MWVkM2UwIiwidXJsIjoiIiwib3JnYW5pemF0aW9uX2lkIjoxNzgxfQ.ilS2pubRRScMURqpaylptUFU4Q3HdNoIhc9782WazhY&url=https%3A//www.facebook.com/mdwestix> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png] <https:/app.bitdam.com/api/v1.0/links/rewrite_click/?rewrite_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZXdyaXRlX2lkIjoiNjAyYmM4N2IyNTdlMjllOTk4ODdkMmJhIiwidXJsIjoiIiwib3JnYW5pemF0aW9uX2lkIjoxNzgxfQ.hSSfJDVZ75azmzfJMjCK1lBuPv_KjWRXszTl3GJlaic&url=https%3A//www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png] <https:/app.bitdam.com/api/v1.0/links/rewrite_click/?rewrite_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZXdyaXRlX2lkIjoiNjAyYmM4N2I3MDg0ZDcyYzJkNjkxYjQ0IiwidXJsIjoiIiwib3JnYW5pemF0aW9uX2lkIjoxNzgxfQ.h9__DpyDKPQKuPnVyut_mqPH0Xe3zlx34wlE-XFQU7k&url=https%3A//twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <https:/app.bitdam.com/api/v1.0/links/rewrite_click/?rewrite_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZXdyaXRlX2lkIjoiNjAyYmM4N2I3MDg0ZDcyYzJkNjkxYjQzIiwidXJsIjoiIiwib3JnYW5pemF0aW9uX2lkIjoxNzgxfQ.cF4tLeYNUMqlju7N-nowJ6KtmKYxWkcnUN8rFM8zrX0&url=http%3A//www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png] <https:/app.bitdam.com/api/v1.0/links/rewrite_click/?rewrite_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZXdyaXRlX2lkIjoiNjAyYmM4N2IyNTdlMjllOTk4ODdkMmI5IiwidXJsIjoiIiwib3JnYW5pemF0aW9uX2lkIjoxNzgxfQ.FXvT-830FHIfnoKELAKl_NnxZIU91k2gcLkho6Yj7qI&url=https%3A//www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https:/app.bitdam.com/api/v1.0/links/rewrite_click/?rewrite_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZXdyaXRlX2lkIjoiNjAyYmM4N2JhNjdjZTMzMjE3NzRlMDkxIiwidXJsIjoiIiwib3JnYW5pemF0aW9uX2lkIjoxNzgxfQ.7ab2OPCpILl8NPTPGDuMwhO-Q0kYvHY_4oXXv13JHlA&url=https%3A//www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ________________________________ From: "Rod Beck" <rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com> To: "Sean Donelan" <sean () donelan com>, "Mikael Abrahamsson" <swmike () swm pp se> Cc: nanog () nanog org Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 6:05:41 AM Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Are the power lines buried like in Europe where I live? I really think using poles is crazy and global warming guarantees enough atmospheric turbulence to make it untenable. Florida is moving to bury power lines. ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+rod.beck=unitedcablecompany.com () nanog org> on behalf of Mikael Abrahamsson via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 9:06 AM To: Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com> Cc: nanog () nanog org <nanog () nanog org> Subject: RE: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, Sean Donelan wrote:
Strange the massive shortages and failures are only in one state. The extreme cold weather extends northwards across many states, which aren't reporting rolling blackouts.
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Current thread:
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts, (continued)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts John Sage (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts JASON BOTHE via NANOG (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Mark Tinka (Feb 17)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Mark Tinka (Feb 17)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Brett Frankenberger (Feb 16)
- RE: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Mikael Abrahamsson via NANOG (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Rod Beck (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Sean Donelan (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Sabri Berisha (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Mike Hammett (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Robert DeVita (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Mike Hammett (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Matt Erculiani (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Jared Mauch (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Rod Beck (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Mike Hammett (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Peter Beckman (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Karl Auer (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Rod Beck (Feb 17)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Ge DUPIN (Feb 17)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts JÁKÓ András (Feb 17)